Why do Christians think God talks with them?

[Imalive]

Let's get back to the topic here. What evidence is there that all the people these days who claim to have heard God's voice speaking to them, audibly, in a language that they understand...are correct about it. Citing what God did to or with someone in Bible times does not prove that these people today are correct about their claims.

What do you mean with audibly?
I never hear anyone say that.
God gives thoughts. Some people think they think it themselves. It's hard to recognize, so you have to test it. There are so many prophecies that dont come true cause it was just wishful thinking of the person. Thats cause He doesn't yell often from heaven. That was in some very rare cases like w Jesus or Paul.
Like lately when ppl here were questioning tongues I tested it w do you confess Jesus Christ came in the flesh? and I heard very clear: Yes I do my daughter. Very quick, immediately. But in my head, not in the room.
Some people hear the devil speak to em all the time and psychiatrists put em on meds.
One preacher heard God speak to him as a kid that he'd go preach over the world and everywhere he came lives would be touched, lives would be healed. He was 6. He told his mom. She brought him to the reverend of a reformed church in America. He said very mad: God doesn't talk anymore!! So the kid was sent to a psychiater and put on meds and he didnt want anything to do w God anymore for years til he got back and sent the reverend a letter: Thanks for ruining my life. It brought me closer to God.
Now he goes around the world and ppl are touched and healed.

 

[Josiah]

Some thoughts...


1. Experience is always very difficult to evaluate..... I don't deny that God CAN "speak" directly and individually to people (there are biblical examples.... and I tend to hesitate to declare what God cannot do). But just because He has and can doesn't mean He did and does. IMO, the "proof is in the pudding" in most cases; I'd tend to evaluate things in terms of what is CLAIMED was "said." Example: Those girls and their vision and message from Mary. Can I prove it didn't happen? Nope! Does that mean it did? Nope! But the "message" seems harmless.


2. I think individual persons, churches, denominations, cults, etc. tend to do this to evade accountability. "God only (or especially) leads ME!" (with "me" being that individual person, church, denomination or cult). "God told ME (just little ole special ME) and now I'm insisting that I'm the Mouth of God and I'm telling you - thank me very much." It's a pretty big red flag or me.....


3. Now, all that said (and meant).... I separate that from what I refer to as "leanings." There are times when, in my heart and soul, I "felt" God leading me - in my doing and (very rarely) in my thinking. But I "take" that as a personal thing, God "leading" me - and that has no significance to anyone else (thus, not need to share it), and I certainly don't "take" that in any dogmatic sense (cuz I've been wrong about God's leading before!).


Just my fairly worthless half cent.


Pax Christi


- Josiah

 

[psalms 91]

Yeh. That's pretty much what the OP asked for. So far, no one has any.


But the point is that it is not exclusively a spiritual event. It involves a claim of there being a PHYSICAL event, and that is what was inquired into here. The question was not about someone feeling that he had been guided in his thoughts to do something or other or of God opening the person's heart to a new realization, understanding, or something like that.


The question was about people today who claim to have heard God speaking to them audibly.

And, by the way, I have to add that I see no justification for you to question my faith every time you disagree me on any issue. IMHO, that is no way to approach any religious disagreement.

I didnt question your faith per se. I did however raise the issue of do you accept the thousands of people who have heard God speak or not. Either you do or you dont. You clearly dont so I ask you what do you call it? I am talking in the last couple hundered years not way back. The accounts are there tto be believed or not.

 

[MoreCoffee]

Catholics manage to cope with differences between people's experiences. Some are charismatic, they probably speak in tongues like Pentecostals do many are not charismatic and no more speak in tongues than would a conservative Presbyterian. Nobody gets very upset about what the others do. Everybody is walking with God in whatever way they can. Diversity of gifts are recognised and accepted. We are all Catholic in the Catholic Church. Not too many get so worked up that they need to split off and create their own exclusively "conservative" or exclusively "charismatic" groups.

 

[MennoSota]

What do you mean with audibly?
I never hear anyone say that.
God gives thoughts. Some people think they think it themselves. It's hard to recognize, so you have to test it. There are so many prophecies that dont come true cause it was just wishful thinking of the person. Thats cause He doesn't yell often from heaven. That was in some very rare cases like w Jesus or Paul.
Like lately when ppl here were questioning tongues I tested it w do you confess Jesus Christ came in the flesh? and I heard very clear: Yes I do my daughter. Very quick, immediately. But in my head, not in the room.
Some people hear the devil speak to em all the time and psychiatrists put em on meds.
One preacher heard God speak to him as a kid that he'd go preach over the world and everywhere he came lives would be touched, lives would be healed. He was 6. He told his mom. She brought him to the reverend of a reformed church in America. He said very mad: God doesn't talk anymore!! So the kid was sent to a psychiater and put on meds and he didnt want anything to do w God anymore for years til he got back and sent the reverend a letter: Thanks for ruining my life. It brought me closer to God.
Now he goes around the world and ppl are touched and healed.

Do you believe in schizophrenia?

 

[MoreCoffee]

Do you believe in schizophrenia?

My sister in Law's brother is schizophrenic and he hears voices but his voices are destructive and distressing for him, they probably do not sound like God. I don't think that schizophrenia explains "hearing God" but I also do not absolutely rule it out.

 

[Imalive]

Do you believe in schizophrenia?

Yes I encountered some guys w that and I just kicked those demons out of one in the mental hospital and he didn't hear em anymore. LOL it was forbidden by the staff so we did it hiding in the smoke room.
Also gave him a Bible w a sinners prayer.

 

[MennoSota]

Catholics manage to cope with differences between people's experiences. Some are charismatic, they probably speak in tongues like Pentecostals do many are not charismatic and no more speak in tongues than would a conservative Presbyterian. Nobody gets very upset about what the others do. Everybody is walking with God in whatever way they can. Diversity of gifts are recognised and accepted. We are all Catholic in the Catholic Church. Not too many get so worked up that they need to split off and create their own exclusively "conservative" or exclusively "charismatic" groups.

You are switching topics.

You are referring to being the Good Neighbor, which has no bearing on whether God speaks to people today.

I am still looking for biblical proof. So far I have seen nothing that supports God speaking to people after the Apostles died.

 

[Imalive]

I heard the devil as a teen. I got saved, got a personal Word from God from a guy w prophesy gifts. He sent it to me what God told him in a letter. He said: I declare you free in My Name! Guy had no idea what was the matter w me. He didnt even know me. It was gone instantly.

 

[MoreCoffee]

You are switching topics.

You are referring to being the Good Neighbor, which has no bearing on whether God speaks to people today.

I am still looking for biblical proof. So far I have seen nothing that supports God speaking to people after the Apostles died.

Being good has a whole lot to do with how you treat your neighbour when he/she says "God told me ..."

 

[Imalive]

You are switching topics.

You are referring to being the Good Neighbor, which has no bearing on whether God speaks to people today.

I am still looking for biblical proof. So far I have seen nothing that supports God speaking to people after the Apostles died.

What about prophesying which Paul told the believers to do? That stopped when they died?

 

[MennoSota]

Yes I encountered some guys w that and I just kicked those demons out of one in the mental hospital and he didn't hear em anymore. LOL it was forbidden by the staff so we did it hiding in the smoke room.
Also gave him a Bible w a sinners prayer.

You kicked them out?

I highly doubt it. Demons would mop you up.

Now the Spirit of God, that's a different story.

On a side note...and worthy of a new topic...where do we find the sinners prayer in the Bible?

 

[Imalive]

You kicked them out?

I highly doubt it. Demons would mop you up.

Now the Spirit of God, that's a different story.

On a side note...and worthy of a new topic...where do we find the sinners prayer in the Bible?

in Jesus' Name. Yes He does it when you command em in His Name.

 

[MennoSota]

Being good has a whole lot to do with how you treat your neighbour when he/she says "God told me ..."

Believing them is something else entirely...

 

[MennoSota]

What about prophesying which Paul told the believers to do? That stopped when they died?

What verses are you specifically referring to?

 

[MennoSota]

in Jesus' Name. Yes He does it when you command em in His Name.

Some folks in the book of Acts did that and the demons turned on them, beat them up and kicked them out, naked and bloodied.
I suggest that unless the Spirit of God does the work, any claims by you are just demons playing with you and not really leaving a person at all.

 

[psalms 91]

You are switching topics.

You are referring to being the Good Neighbor, which has no bearing on whether God speaks to people today.

I am still looking for biblical proof. So far I have seen nothing that supports God speaking to people after the Apostles died.

I am curious what do you believe since it seems that you are just questioning many things and I have noticed a couple shots so to speak so what do you believe?

 

[psalms 91]

You are switching topics.

You are referring to being the Good Neighbor, which has no bearing on whether God speaks to people today.

I am still looking for biblical proof. So far I have seen nothing that supports God speaking to people after the Apostles died.

Tell you what, when you find that book of the bible written in the last 100 years please elt us know since you seem to be looking for it

 

[Imalive]

Some folks in the book of Acts did that and the demons turned on them, beat them up and kicked them out, naked and bloodied.
I suggest that unless the Spirit of God does the work, any claims by you are just demons playing with you and not really leaving a person at all.

lol

 

[Imalive]

What verses are you specifically referring to?

1 Corinthians 14New King James Version (NKJV)

Prophecy and Tongues
14 Pursue love, and desire spiritual gifts, but especially that you may prophesy. 2 For he who speaks in a tongue does not speak to men but to God, for no one understands him; however, in the spirit he speaks mysteries. 3 But he who prophesies speaks edification and exhortation and comfort to men.

1 Thessalonians 5:20-21New King James Version (NKJV)

20 Do not despise prophecies. 21 Test all things; hold fast what is good.