What should happen to students in college admissions scam?

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They should get kicked out of the school their parents got them into and go back and apply on their own to the school they want to go to. If they can get in on their own merits then good for them
 

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I say it depends, if they were picked over others then yes they should be expelled
 

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Each student should be evaluated on a case by case basis to determine whether they have the qualifications to remain within that particular school because if they are not then they do not belong and other students should be allowed in.
 

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I'm sure the cultural right people up in arms about this had no problem with W. Bush, right?
 

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I'm sure the cultural right people up in arms about this had no problem with W. Bush, right?

Weren't you the person who started another thread I was just looking at in which the complaint was that some people live in an angry bubble. Are you intent upon giving us a first rate example of that phenomenon?
 

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https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/14/us/college-admission-cheating-students/index.html

Have you been keeping up with the news of the Hollywood elite getting their kids into college through questionable and even unethical means? What do you think should happen to those kids?

This is a good one to divide people along political lines. The people who argue the kids involved didn't do anything wrong (as is the argument with the Dreamers) should logically argue that they should be allowed to stay even if they are clearly not suited to study at that level. Of course the people who push that argument don't tend to have a problem with the child of a drug baron losing the luxurious lifestyle they grew used to even though they didn't do anything wrong either.

I can't see how the students who essentially cheated to get into college can stay there, especially if they can't pass exams in their own right.

It is a tricky issue where the children of the incredibly rich are concerned - it seems that if Daddy is a billionaire your place at the university of your choice is more or less guaranteed because Daddy just funds an entire research laboratory with the family name on it, and the chances are the only people that care that you only got a place because your family paid for the laboratory are the ones you don't invite to your lavish parties. The regular rank-and-file people (your average working person) has to play more or less by the rules. The children with parents not rich enough to drop nine figures on a new building for the university, but rich enough to pay/bribe middlemen end up in this kind of place. Of course nobody is forced to cheat - you can always play by the rules - but if your kid isn't bright enough to get into a top school and you want them to get the networking opportunities it would bring them it's easy to see why people might do it.

Of course if the kids are smart enough to network they'll have their social links in place by now, so they'll have got most of the benefit the parents wanted anyway.

It is sad when kids pay the price for the misdeeds of their parents, but if they can't get into college on their own merits there comes a point when they have to be kicked out. It might be humiliating for them but at least it sends a clear message that being caught out results in disgrace, rather than a lot of tutting but no meaningful consequences.
 

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The issue may be a bit different, however. Let's suppose that the students involved CAN pass the entrance exams, etc. but the parents simply made sure that they would be granted admission. They still could not stay admitted now, since that would amount to them being the beneficiaries of a scam. They might be considered to be innocent participants, but they still cannot profit from wrongdoing now that it is out in the open.

What's more, even if they meet all the entrance requirements, each of them takes the place that could have gone to some other qualified applicant (of which there are many in the cases of the particular universities named).
 

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The rich normally always get what they want. That seems to be a fact of life. I mean, that quote sounded corny on "Titantic" (the movie) - but it's undeniable.

OK, what rich person has dumb kids - who are going to a lower-than-Harvard school? Does it happen?
 
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