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What kind of "flesh" did Jesus take in the 'incarnation', fallen or unfallen, & how does it affect the Gospel?

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Are you afraid to say that Jesus took sin but was Himself never sinful?
Suddenly, I have the strangest flashback to kindergarten, and another flashback in a similar scene from 'Back to the Future':


Why do you think that is?

As stated before, Jesus took the "sinful (fallen) flesh" (Rom. 8:3) of mankind upon Himself (Php. 2, &c.) and yet lived a perfect life "without sin" (Heb. 4:15), and thus "condemned sin in the flesh" (Rom. 8:3), His flesh, our (fallen mankind's) flesh. This is part of how Jesus would "taketh away the sin of the world".

Joh_1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.​
Adam the first originally had an unfallen flesh nature, and was without sin, and not subject to death. However, through sin (transgression of God's law), Adam then became fallen, and as such from then on had sinful (fallen) flesh, and was subject to death, and so also all of his descendants in the flesh.

Rom_5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:​
Rom_5:17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)​

Jesus, in order to restore mankind back to the Edenic perfection, had to come in the place of Adam, and be the last Adam (1 Cor. 15:45), and start from the position of the fall of the first Adam, and take the likeness of sinful (fallen) flesh of mankind (Rom. 8:3), but live a life perfectly in that sinful (fallen) flesh "without sin", showing / demonstrating that by God's grace, through Faith and the power of the Holy Ghost / Spirit, that victory is possible with God in all things (condemning sin in the flesh; Rom. 8:3, and that there is no excuse for sin (1 Jhn. 3:4) in unfallen or fallen flesh, as the Holy Spirit of God is greater than all flesh!), and so upon dying in that sinful (fallen) flesh, yet without having sinned, could obtain for all mankind that immortalized unfallen flesh nature and perfection of character again.

Php_3:21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.​
Eph_4:15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:​
 

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What kind of "flesh" did Jesus take in the 'incarnation', fallen or unfallen, & how does it affect the Gospel?

How can a person know for certain?

Joh_5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.​

What does the scripture say about the mankind flesh nature of Jesus?

Psa_51:5 Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.​
Rom_1:3 Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;​
Rom 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: [“likeness”, see Php. 2:7; Rom. 6:5]
Gal_3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.​
Gal_4:4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,​
Heb 2:16 For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.​

Can an unfallen 'human' nature without sin be subject to death? No.

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Jesus took Adams human nature after the fall. But Jesus did not inherit sinful tendencies from Adam - that is, Jesus did not have a tendency to sin. Christ inherited our physical weaknesses, for example, Christ had to sleep when he got tired. He had to eat when he got hungry and drink when he got thirsty. He inherited our physical limitations but not our sinful inclinations.
 
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