What is your position on canonized Saints?

[Romanos]

What is your position?

 

[MoreCoffee]

What is your position?

Good people worth knowing.

 

[BruceLeiter]

All true believers are saints, according to the Apostle Paul, who addressed them as such in his letters.

 

[leaping through the night]

If you notice - in the last 2000 years of Roman Catholicism - there has never been a single Non - Catholic saint. Roman Catholics will never consider a Non - Catholic _ to be called a saint _ or to enter into heaven as a saint.

In the mind of the Roman Catholic - there are no Non - Catholics Saints in heaven.

Protestants also often have this same attitude toward Roman Catholics.

There are many dividing lines and disagreements that exist as conflicts of faith. I used to have some Catholic friends that I worked with at my job - before I retired and they were always nice people.

But ( The Non - Catholic Christian ) Will never be a saint and will never be going to Catholic heaven - Or Accepted or Allowed to enter.


After 2000 years they have clearly proven that they have never found even a single protestant Christian deserving, worthy or capable of being considered for sainthood.

This concept simply does not exist.

And many Protestants feel the same about Catholics, I believe that there will be Catholics in heaven and I have known many Roman Catholics who are very kind, considerate, loving and wonderful people.​

 

[Lamb]

If you notice - in the last 2000 years of Roman Catholicism - there has never been a single Non - Catholic saint. Roman Catholics will never consider a Non - Catholic _ to be called a saint _ or to enter into heaven as a saint.

In the mind of the Roman Catholic - there are no Non - Catholics Saints in heaven.

Protestants also often have this same attitude toward Roman Catholics.

There are many dividing lines and disagreements that exist as conflicts of faith. I used to have some Catholic friends that I worked with at my job - before I retired and they were always nice people.

But ( The Non - Catholic Christian ) Will never be a saint and will never be going to Catholic heaven - Or Accepted or Allowed to enter.


After 2000 years they have clearly proven that they have never found even a single protestant Christian deserving, worthy or capable of being considered for sainthood.

This concept simply does not exist.

And many Protestants feel the same about Catholics, I believe that there will be Catholics in heaven and I have known many Roman Catholics who are very kind, considerate, loving and wonderful people.​

I never realized that! Thanks for pointing it out.

 

[leaping through the night]

the philosophy AND methodology of how Catholics choose and accept individuals for sainthood is very secretive, selective and quickly and very abruptly performed

the individual is quickly chosen by the leaders with no personal information about the person and no public discourse about the matter - the individual is chosen and suddenly quickly named and honored as a saint.

furthermore ...............


Roman Catholics have had thousands of Saints that have been “ PRE JUDGED “ here on earth and these Saints are ALREADY CLAIMED to be in Heaven

( RIGHT NOW ) - and Catholics are directly praying to thousands of these saints.

Thousands of Catholic Saints are already Pre - Judged by the Roman Catholic judgment and are judged to have been ascended up into heaven, even before the great judgment day, even before the resurrection an 2nd coming,

Catholics believe that these Canonized Saints are hearing and receiving prayers.

So Basically what we are NOTICING is that Catholics have Already Decided and JUDGED these thousands of souls AS Heaven Bound Soul,

Catholics, they emulate the role of acting as Judge and Jury ) and have already Pre -Judged Catholic saints,, before Judgment day. The Roman Catholic Judgment day is a real time, live show = here on Earth.

Pre Judging people's souls and deciding - who is and who is NOT going to heaven.

Notice that - There are No NON CATHOLIC Saints. …..

In 2000 years of Roman Catholicism, There has never been a single non Catholic Saint and there Will be no NON Catholic saints. - never, Catholics do not allow Non-Catholics to enter into heaven through this process. - Catholics do not allow non-Catholics to be Saints through this process

WHY ? Catholic teaching tells us why.

'Heretics “ those who are NOT MEMBERS OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH “ or who “ DO NOT HOLD TO CATHOLIC DOCTRINE “ worship a GOD WHO IS A LIAR, and a Christ who is a liar.'

St. Augustine, (quoted in 'Patrologiae Cursus Completus: Series Graca', by Fr. J. P. Migne, Paris: 1866, 42:207).


All OUTSIDE THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, Jews or heretics CANNOT SHARE IN ETERNAL life and will GO INTO THE EVERLASTING FIRE which was prepared for the devil and his angels, UNLESS THEY ARE JOINED TO THE CATHOLIC CHURCH

Pope Eugenius I've, in 'Bull of Union with the Copts', Council of Florence, Session 11, on February 4, 1442..


MISGUIDED PEOPLE attempt TO PERSUADE themselves & others THAT MEN ARE NOT SAVED ONLY IN THE CATHOLIC RELIGION, but that even heretics may attain eternal life.'

Pope Gregory XVI, Summo Iugiter Studio (On Mixed Marriages), Encyclical promulgated on May 27, 1832, #2.


'HERETICS do NOT have THE SAME GOD, the SAME CHRIST as CATHOLICS.'

Tertullian: (Patrolo-giae Cursus Completus: Series Graca, Fr. J. P. Migne, Paris: 1866, 1:1216)


Remember after 2000 years of Catholicism - there has never been a Non - Catholic Saint. Catholics do not allow Non-Catholics to enter into their heaven. And Non - Catholic Christians DO NOT SERVE THE SAME GOD AS CATHOLICS - this is the historical teaching of the Roman Catholic Church

In conclusion as Non – Catholics. we are claiming that we are Christians -

meanwhile

Catholic teaching demands that we do not serve the same God as Catholics....... Catholic teaching demands that we are serving a god who is an evil liar and not the true god. Catholic teaching demands that Christians outside the catholic church, - - cannot share in eternal life and that we will go into the everlasting fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels, unless they we are joined to the catholic church

Yet Catholic teaching demands that Muslims are serving " the true God " - Muslims are serving the God of the Roman Catholic, serving the same exact God as Catholics.

For many of us, Christians, we whom are not Roman Catholic ourselves, we simply do not realize the depth and scope of how this seems so impossible to meet the challenge of communicating with eternal contradiction, opposition and dissimilarity,

our challenge, is not lack of understanding and lack of knowledge about the Catholic teaching but our challenge is the eternal distance from reality and a lack basic truth and genuine honesty that is everything we see in the Catholic teaching. The more we know about Catholic teaching, the further we are pushed away from the orbit of reality, a never ending system of circular reasoning that folds in upon itself designed to cancel out and omit basic principles of God’s word.