What is Genesis 6:5-8 about?

[MoreCoffee]

Here's the passage from the Catholic Public Domain Translation which is translated from the Vulgate into English.

Then God, seeing that the wickedness of men was great upon the earth and that every thought of their heart was intent upon evil at all times, repented that he had made man on the earth. And being touched inwardly with a sorrow of heart, he said, "I will eliminate man, whom I have created, from the face of the earth, from man to other living things, from animals even to the flying things of the air. For it grieves me that I have made them." Yet truly, Noah found grace before the Lord. ​

Genesis 6:5-8

Do you think it has anything to say about the T of TULIP? T being for Total depravity. The total being extensive rather than intensive, and the depravity being wickedness and moral corruption rather than just sexual depravity.

 

[Messy]

every thought of their heart was intent upon evil at all times
That makes even Hitler sound friendly, cause he petted his dog.
Yes this sounds to me like total depravity.

 

[MoreCoffee]

every thought of their heart was intent upon evil at all times
That makes even Hitler sound friendly, cause he petted his dog.
Yes this sounds to me like total depravity.

To Whom is it applicable?

 

[Messy]

Here's the passage from the Catholic Public Domain Translation which is translated from the Vulgate into English.

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Hey that's a good translation! The masoretic text has the 1's wrong, but this one has the correct ages.

Genesis 11 | CPDV Bijbel | YouVersion

Now the earth was of one language and of the same speech. And when they were advancing from the east, they found a plain in the land of Shinar, and they dwelt in it. And each one said to his neighbor,

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[MoreCoffee]

Hey that's a good translation! The masoretic text has the 1's wrong, but this one has the correct ages.

Genesis 11 | CPDV Bijbel | YouVersion

Now the earth was of one language and of the same speech. And when they were advancing from the east, they found a plain in the land of Shinar, and they dwelt in it. And each one said to his neighbor,

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There are some advantages associated with the Latin text. But it is a matter than few Protestants spend much time considering.

 

[Messy]

To Whom is it applicable?

If you ask me, those for whom there is no hope, like demons, who were there too as offspring from fallen angels and women. Some say Noah and his family were the only normal humans left with no nephilim genes, which I doubt, because Canaan also had giants and they were also destroyed.

 

[MoreCoffee]

If you ask me, those for whom there is no hope, like demons, who were there too as offspring from fallen angels and women. Some say Noah and his family were the only normal humans left with no nephilim genes, which I doubt, because Canaan also had giants and they were also destroyed.

It looks like it applied to the generation living when Noah was preaching, Noah and his family were excepted. No doubt as an act of grace towards them, but an act of grace predicated by Noah's preaching righteousness.

 

[Messy]

It looks like it applied to the generation living when Noah was preaching, Noah and his family were excepted. No doubt as an act of grace towards them, but an act of grace predicated by Noah's preaching righteousness.

Yes but some say that the nephilim, who were part of the generation living with Noah, are now demons and demons never have a good thought. Normal people are not sinless, but not that bad. But apparently everyone who lived with Noah, except for his family, any thought they had was always bad. That is totally depraved.

 

[MoreCoffee]

Yes but some say that the nephilim, who were part of the generation living with Noah, are now demons and demons never have a good thought. Normal people are not sinless, but not that bad. But apparently everyone who lived with Noah, except for his family, any thought they had was always bad. That is totally depraved.

Well, Noah's daughters in law were not from his blood line I think, so some other families were just people.

 

[Messy]

Well, Noah's daughters in law were not from his blood line I think, so some other families were just people.

Yes but amazing how they got that evil. Just like Sodom. Those were just people.

But before they lay down, the men of the city, the men of Sodom, both young and old, all the people to the last man, surrounded the house.

Even kids? Everyone was posessed by unclean demons? And the righteous Lot says take my daughters, who later rape him.

 

[Albion]

Here's the passage from the Catholic Public Domain Translation which is translated from the Vulgate into English.

Then God, seeing that the wickedness of men was great upon the earth and that every thought of their heart was intent upon evil at all times, repented that he had made man on the earth. And being touched inwardly with a sorrow of heart, he said, "I will eliminate man, whom I have created, from the face of the earth, from man to other living things, from animals even to the flying things of the air. For it grieves me that I have made them." Yet truly, Noah found grace before the Lord. ​

Genesis 6:5-8

Do you think it has anything to say about the T of TULIP? T being for Total depravity. The total being extensive rather than intensive, and the depravity being wickedness and moral corruption rather than just sexual depravity.

I don't think it (T) refers to any particular sins but to the fundamental standing of human beings before God following the Fall of Adam and Eve.

 

[Josiah]

Here's the passage from the Catholic Public Domain Translation which is translated from the Vulgate into English.

Then God, seeing that the wickedness of men was great upon the earth and that every thought of their heart was intent upon evil at all times, repented that he had made man on the earth. And being touched inwardly with a sorrow of heart, he said, "I will eliminate man, whom I have created, from the face of the earth, from man to other living things, from animals even to the flying things of the air. For it grieves me that I have made them." Yet truly, Noah found grace before the Lord. ​

Genesis 6:5-8

Do you think it has anything to say about the T of TULIP? T being for Total depravity. The total being extensive rather than intensive, and the depravity being wickedness and moral corruption rather than just sexual depravity.

I agree with the "T" of TULIP which is that unregenerate, fallen, atheistic, enemy of God is unable to earn (or even contribute) to his initial justification.

As for what Genesis 6:5-8 "means," IMO it "means" exactly what it says (although I'd be open to the idea of some hyperbole here). And I'd agree that "man" isn't fundamentally different now - we still have "original sin" although it may well be that such was worse before the Flood.



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[SetFree]

If you ask me, those for whom there is no hope, like demons, who were there too as offspring from fallen angels and women. Some say Noah and his family were the only normal humans left with no nephilim genes, which I doubt, because Canaan also had giants and they were also destroyed.

Genesis 6:9 reveals that Noah was 'perfect' in his generations. The Hebrew word for "perfect" is the same Hebrew word uses for the requirement of the gene purity of sacrificial animals to God under the old covenant. That seals the fact that Noah and his family had NOT mixed their bloodline with those Nephilim.

Isaiah 26:14 uses the name for the giants, the Rephaim, but it is mis-translated to the word "deceased" in the KJV Bible. Other places in the KJV they left it as the proper name Rephaim about a certain group of the hybrid-giant race.

What is unique about Isaiah 26:14 is that it reveals those "shall not rise", i.e., not resurrect.

Isa 26:14
14 They are dead, they shall not live; they are deceased, they shall not rise: therefore hast Thou visited and destroyed them, and made all their memory to perish.
KJV

We know that even the wicked dead will have a resurrection, the "resurrection of damnation" that Lord Jesus revealed on the day of His return per John 5:28-29.

But these of Isaiah 26:14, the Rephaim hybrid-giants, "shall not rise", not resurrect. By this it proves... that the giants were indeed a HYBRID-RACE which God did NOT create. It DISPROVES men's false doctrine that says the giants were just mean and wicked bullies.