What do you believe is the most popular false doctrine and why?

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For me it's the whole Prosperity preaching these days that is in total opposition to Christ's ministry and teaching.
If the love of money is the root of all evil then how is it okay to validate yourself as "blessed" from God or marked as favored to his expense via a public and rather vulgar display of wealth?

For others it may be OSAS, a teaching that eliminates every heed and warning in the NT against allowing unclean spirits into a completely cleansed house...

What are some others.. old and new alike?
 

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That Jesus' death didn't forgive our sins is the worst false doctrine there is.
 

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That Jesus' death didn't forgive our sins is the worst false doctrine there is.

I wanted to clarify what I wrote.

The OP asks for the most popular false doctrine and I want to explain why I think that what I wrote is not only the worst false doctrine but also the most popular one. Whenever anyone says that Jesus' death only gave potential for our sins to be forgiven and that we have to do our part first are part of that false doctrine. I see it all the time on Christian sites where Jesus' death really didn't forgive but only gave the potential to forgive. That's Satan snickering in the background as he has confused yet another believer into refusing the beautiful atonement/justification of the cross by Jesus' death and resurrection,
 

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I think I'd agree with the prosperity / health-and-wealth message.

The whole concept of "positive confession" sounds good but if that's the way we should live our lives we can't possibly expect to follow the man who said we would face troubles in this world. The promise of perfect health until we die also sounds wonderful - I'm sure we'd all love to maintain perfect health all the time - but just isn't true. Just to add irony is when the person preaching their message of perfect health has their own health issues, even if they are as relatively minor as being short-sighted.
 

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That you have to earn salvation by works
 

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biblical inerrancy
 

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I would suggest original sin.

I do not read the Genesis myth as a fall from an original state of perfection into sin and death. The first couple were completely innocent and naive creatures. They were certainly capable of making a mistake but, without knowing good from evil, they lacked even the ability to sin. That ability came only with them eating of the "Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil". To me the story is a "coming of age story". Our mythical first couple graduated from animal status into to fully self aware human beings capable of making moral judgements. This is not an Original Sin story but rather an Original Blessing story that should be celebrated. We are not a people fallen from an original state of perfection into sin and death.


Why the expulsion from Eden? In the mythology, I believe it to be symbolic that mankind was no longer a naïve creature living in moral ignorance but had become real men and women living in a real world where there was real good and evil.


What we are is a people that is still evolving and that evolution has profoundly affected not just our bodies but our psyches as well. The world in which we evolved was a difficult and dagerous one and mere survival was of the highest priority. Selfishness became a part of who we are as a survival mechanism. This selfish instinct is no longer as necessary as in our savage past but it is still powerful. If there is an "Original Sin", this is it. Of course it is not a sin really but an innate part of our nature and it can be overcome.


In the words of Bishop John Spong: "Every living thing, plant and animal is programmed to survive. What is true of all these living things is also true of human life. The only difference is that we human beings are self-conscious, while plants and animals are not. If survival is our highest goal, self-centeredness is inevitable and thus this quality becomes a constant part of the human experience. Traditionally, the church has called this "original sin" and has explained it with the myth of the fall. That was simply wrong. Survival is a quality found in life itself. There was no fall. Self-centered, survival driven, self-conscious creatures is simply who we are. There is thus no such thing as "original sin" from which we need to be rescued by a divine invader. So much of traditional Christianity assumes this false premise."
 

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In the last few years I’ve started thinking about what happens to Christian theology in the absence of a Fall. I agree that from a biological point of view it appears that we are designed to learn from mistakes, and were never morally perfect nor intended to be.

It would be possible to regard the fall as a myth, but one pointing to the reality that we are all unacceptable to God because of our moral imperfections, but I think there’s another approach that’s more consistent with Scripture as a whole.

It seems that in the OT righteousness didn’t mean perfection. It meant living with reasonable fidelity to the laws, and repenting when one makes a mistake. In Jesus, of course, the emphasis moves from laws to intent and general principles. But the overall approach of not expecting perfection seems still to be there. Despite out-of-context citations of Rom 3:10, the Bible calls lots of people righteous without any indication that it’s unusual.

In Jesus’ teaching, salvation has two meanings. It is used sometimes for people who changed from being opposed to God to being his follower. But I don’t see any implication that everyone has to be converted in this way. He also used it of final salvation, that is, eternal life.

This all seems consistent with the general Protestant view that we are not justified by having perfect works, but by faith. In order to maintain consistency between Jesus and Paul, I understand faith as a general orientation of our lives, not just intellectual belief. Remember that pistis actually can be translated faithfulness as well as faith.

Although I come from the Calvinist tradition, I now regard traditional Reformed exegesis of Paul rather unconvincing. When he says no one is righteous, this is pretty clearly in the context of criticizing a righteousness of works, which for him would require an impossible perfection. (Jews, of course, never expected or required moral perfection, but he’s not arguing against Judaism, but rather a group of Christians with whom he disagreed.)

This perspective allows for a natural treatment of the difference between children and adults. Most Christians (including Reformed) assume that all infants and children are “saved.” For Reformed, that’s not because they are morally perfect, but because they see evidence in the NT that God makes allowances for them. In order to adopt the traditional theology we have to assume that at some point the way God deals with us reverses, original sin falls on us, and we have to convert to avoid damnation. I have to ask whether Scripture really teaches the God is predjudiced against adults.

My sense is that children are mostly accepted, and this continues as they mature, but that for some people something goes wrong and they morally and spiritually defective. Maybe God eventually rescues them, as Paul’s writings suggest, or maybe they do not share in eternal life. But this is not the default situation of mankind. It’s a degeneration.

I don’t want to suggest that God doesn’t care about what people do. He certainly does. Jesus talks about that a fair amount (though I can’t help suspecting the Matthew may have magnified it somewhat). I do expect t be held accountable. But except for those who are lost, I believe 1 Cor 3:12 is the likely form.

The usual response from traditional Protestant theology is “you are teaching works righteousness.” In fact the most consistent teacher of works righteousness is Jesus. But neither Jesus nor I suggest that we any sense merit acceptance by God through works. We don’t need to. Jesus teaches that God loves us. That’’s grace, not works.

When someone becomes an enemy, I don’t think it’s just a matter of his bad deeds outweighing his good. I think it reflects the overall direction of his life, and is thus faithlessness as well as disobedience.
 
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Hedrick --- thank you for that very thoughtful response.
 

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The eternal hell doctrine and possibly the one about monogamous marriage only vs polygamy permission. Yes, the Prosperity thing is also wrong.
 

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The eternal hell doctrine and possibly the one about monogamous marriage only vs polygamy permission. Yes, the Prosperity thing is also wrong.
There is a part in revelation that talks about a sea of glass mingled with fire where the Christians that overcame were purified by fire.. I imagine the ones who don't overcome are burned and destroyed by the fire?
 
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Misunderstood this topic.
 

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There is a part in revelation that talks about a sea of glass mingled with fire where the Christians that overcame were purified by fire.. I imagine the ones who don't overcome are burned and destroyed by the fire?

It's incompatible with God's forgiving nature. Well, Christians are changed by the fire, the others stay in the fire for more purification - until they're changed eventually. Why would imagine, assume otherwise?
 

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It's incompatible with God's forgiving nature. Well, Christians are changed by the fire, the others stay in the fire for more purification - until they're changed eventually. Why would imagine, assume otherwise?
So everyone will be baptised by the fire and eventually transformed?
I see the old Adam as a man that was destroyed in the fire at baptism, not a popular view and it borders on universalism but what exactly are we to make of "God wills that all be saved" in association with "Gods will be done"?

I can't accept the medieval portrayal of Hell wherein indestructible bodies burn alive in a fiery abyss for all eternity as a jolly laughing devil in the distance holds a pitch fork and tortures them for kicks..
I guess it's plausible for a newly resurrected body that can't die to feel the constant sensation of burning alive ablaze forever and ever but it doesn't align with scripture that they have not eternal life and will be utterly destroyed.. that is, destroyed as defined in our modern dictionary..

Not meaning to go rogue from the main topic here but we can discuss.. I just don't see the depictions of hell in my head as suggested throughout church history when I read the scripture.. I may not know the answer myself but I have always questioned the orthodox interpretation
 
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So everyone will be baptised by the fire and eventually transformed?
I see the old Adam as a man that was destroyed in the fire at baptism, not a popular view and it borders on universalism but what exactly are we to make of "God wills that all be saved" in association with "Gods will be done"?

I can't accept the medieval portrayal of Hell wherein indestructible bodies burn alive in a fiery abyss for all eternity as a jolly laughing devil in the distance holds a pitch fork and tortures them for kicks..
I guess it's plausible for a newly resurrected body that can't die to feel the constant sensation of burning alive ablaze forever and ever but it doesn't align with scripture that they have not eternal life and will be utterly destroyed.. that is, destroyed as defined in our modern dictionary..

Not meaning to go rogue from the main topic here but we can discuss.. I just don't see the depictions of hell in my head as suggested throughout church history when I read the scripture.. I may not know the answer myself but I have always questioned the orthodox interpretation

Perhaps these misinterpretations were promoted by a corrupt church wanting to scare people.
 

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The eternal hell doctrine and possibly the one about monogamous marriage only vs polygamy permission. Yes, the Prosperity thing is also wrong.
What do you mean when you say "monogamous marriage only vs polygamy permission"?
 
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