what "allowed" tv series do you watch like border countrol , ambulance , pay or we take it away

[Holy999]

can you say me it. what do you watch.

 

[Lamb]

What do you mean by allowed?

 

[Holy999]

What do you mean by allowed?

non-sin

 

[Lamb]

non-sin

Sin is everywhere. Even the most well-intentioned tv shows will have some sort of sin by addition or omission.

 

[Frankj]

Sin is everywhere. Even the most well-intentioned tv shows will have some sort of sin by addition or omission.

Is that to excuse the watching of those that are deliberately malintentioned and either subtly or openly normalize the acceptance of the listed abominations to God in the Bible so the we accept them and indirectly participate in them by doing so? Those that teach the practice of these things on an unconscious mechanism of our mind that is activated through video presentations?

OR tithing our money to those organizations that actively produce them?

Are we not warned about this in the Bible?

 

[SetFree]

Once I got baptized in Christ, and began to discipline myself in serious Bible study, using many scholarly Bible study tools, I literally turned the TV Off.

The Holy Spirit unction was given me by God to 'study'. And He hit me hard to do that, and obviously did not want ideas of the world to influence it.

Thus I learned, via The Holy Spirit, to discern the things of this world vs. the things that belong to God. In in-depth Bible study of His Word is a journey that helps us to know Him, and what He approves of, and what He does not approve of. He is our Father.

 

[Manonfire63]

Sin and violence have been part of life. Understanding that sin and violence have been part of life, and that a man was a sinner, is a big part of being able to reach people, and lead them out of sin.

Is a particular TV Show, on a personal basis, hurting someone's development in Christianity, their growth in God, their walk in Faith? Some TV Shows, they may be stumbling blocks for people. Some TV shows potentially could give someone false perspectives.

Part of Spiritual Warfare has been a war of words, a war of thoughts. (2 Corinthians 10:5)

Personally, I don't watch much TV. I stopped watching TV regularly in 2008. I mostly watch Youtube videos. Part of what I do for work is be a social critic. I try to keep up with particular media that is on people's minds towards Spiritual Warfare. For me, watching shows on Netflix doesn't hurt me due to where I am in Faith. It may be different for a new Christian or a young person.

Watching TV is not a sin. TV shows could lead people into sin, and be stumbling blocks and/or give someone false perspectives.

 

[Frankj]

Watching TV is not a sin. TV shows could lead people into sin, and be stumbling blocks and/or give someone false perspectives.

Watching Church sermons on TV in pursuit of a Godly life would certainly not be a sin, but how about watching shows that portray sin -everything from magic and witchcraft to sexual deviance- as good, acceptable and even desirable?

Would you consider watching things like men kissing men, women kissing women, and bedroom scenes of them doing this to be a sin or not, and why? would you consider watching shows based on portrayals of casual sexual relations between unmarried men and women to be sinful or not? And further, would you find it acceptable to support those producing such things financially to be sinful or OK in the sight of God?

This is how the Devil (the one behind it IMO) unconsciously preconditions us to accept wrong as right, evil as good, so that we embrace it when we encounter it (and that is scientifically supportable if you want to pursue the unconscious preconditioning mechanism of it, not just a supposition).

When we say watching TV isn't a sin we should not be considering the watching of it but the nature of what we watch and financially support as being or not being a sinful activity.

 

[Manonfire63]

Watching Church sermons on TV in pursuit of a Godly life would certainly not be a sin, but how about watching shows that portray sin -everything from magic and witchcraft to sexual deviance- as good, acceptable and even desirable?

Would you consider watching things like men kissing men, women kissing women, and bedroom scenes of them doing this to be a sin or not, and why? would you consider watching shows based on portrayals of casual sexual relations between unmarried men and women to be sinful or not? And further, would you find it acceptable to support those producing such things financially to be sinful or OK in the sight of God?

This is how the Devil (the one behind it IMO) unconsciously preconditions us to accept wrong as right, evil as good, so that we embrace it when we encounter it (and that is scientifically supportable if you want to pursue the unconscious preconditioning mechanism of it, not just a supposition).

When we say watching TV isn't a sin we should not be considering the watching of it but the nature of what we watch and financially support as being or not being a sinful activity.

The Title of the Thread is "What "Allowed Tv." Allowed. Are you under the law? There is freedom in The Lord. Given someone were to watch "Brokeback Mountain," it would not be a sin. Why are they watching it? The "WHY" is important when it comes to particular sins, and what is going on in someone's heart and soul. Was someone, with their soul, loving LGBT stuff? That person may have been in sin, loving with his soul, sin and worldly things. That person may have been loving LGBT, a social construct and wicked culture. There was a root of the problem. The root of the problem wasn't what someone was watching on TV necessarily.

Given parents are limiting their children in what they watch....that is good. A man should bring his children up to be healthy, God fearing Christians. There may be some rules of thumb towards guiding children into Godliness, and having a Fear of The Lord.

 

[Frankj]

The Title of the Thread is "What "Allowed Tv." Allowed. Are you under the law?

Now that's a good question.

If we are not under the law, then Christianity legitimizes lawlessness and Christians are free to participate in all the moral degeneration and unsound doctrine we see in the Church today, even to the extent of some major sects embracing homosexuality, lesbianism, gay marriage and transexualism as God approved activities.

Of course, Jesus did talk about those who professed them during life but on Judgment were told to depart since he never knew them.

He also mentioned that not a single tittle or jot would be removed from the law till all had come to pass which is something to consider.

FWIW, I know more Christians, at least people calling themselves that since I don't have the authority to make that judgment about one's soul, that give more in tithe to Satan through his media channels and theater productions that to their Church.

But that is something each person has to decide for himself, I guess. As for me, I choose that myself and my house follow the teachings of the Lord, not those of men that distort them into something they were not meant to mean.

This is what the Lord has led me to be in spite of the appeal of men's arguments trying to convince me otherwise.

I will not change from this.

FWIW, children learn to become adults by imitating what they see their parents doing so don't do things you don't want your children to be doing, don't be something you don't want them to become.

This is the stand I take.

 

[Manonfire63]

It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us not to burden you with anything beyond the following requirements: 29 You are to abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things. (Acts 15:28,29)

There is a difference between The Laws of Moses, and God's Righteous ways. They are not necessarily the same; although, someone may derive the character of God, and what is Righteous and Holy from The Laws of Moses.

Do gentile Christians need to be circumcised? Do Christians need to abstain from eating pork? These are part of the Laws of Moses.

What makes someone Holy? Following The Law, or being in God, saved by the Grace of God, choosing God's righteous ways with a circumcision of the heart?

Given I was a teacher in a Junior level High School classroom, I could law down The Law of my Classroom, and someone needs to follow The Law.......or else. I would rather my students choose to be good. They were instructed in right conduct. They had been through ten years of schooling. They know how to behave. They should choose right conduct because it is wholesome and good for them.

When it comes to sin, there are standards. Jesus Chastises and Rebukes those he loves. (Hebrews 12:6)(Revelations 3:19) Did someone know or understand the standards? Sin is missing the mark.

There has been sin and violence all around us. There is sin at school. We live in a sinful world. Watching certain things or not watching certain things on TV doesn't necessarily make someone good. Someone should be in a personal relationship with Jesus Christ, capable of discerning that certain things are good or bad for their soul.

 

[tango]

Watching Church sermons on TV in pursuit of a Godly life would certainly not be a sin, but how about watching shows that portray sin -everything from magic and witchcraft to sexual deviance- as good, acceptable and even desirable?

Would you consider watching things like men kissing men, women kissing women, and bedroom scenes of them doing this to be a sin or not, and why? would you consider watching shows based on portrayals of casual sexual relations between unmarried men and women to be sinful or not? And further, would you find it acceptable to support those producing such things financially to be sinful or OK in the sight of God?

This is how the Devil (the one behind it IMO) unconsciously preconditions us to accept wrong as right, evil as good, so that we embrace it when we encounter it (and that is scientifically supportable if you want to pursue the unconscious preconditioning mechanism of it, not just a supposition).

When we say watching TV isn't a sin we should not be considering the watching of it but the nature of what we watch and financially support as being or not being a sinful activity.

I think this is the kind of situation where there are very few absolutes.

It's easy to draw a line and say that a Christian shouldn't be watching porn movies. It's easy to draw a line and say that it's good to watch a sermon presenting God's word rightly divided. In between is a world of gray.

Is it a sin to watch a TV show that involves a woman taking off her top at some point? Maybe. It's no more explicit than you can see on just about any beach in Europe in the summer so to say it's a universally bad thing probably isn't a valid conclusion. But if you're a young man who struggles with lust then it might not be helpful to watch that particular program. This is just one of many possible examples where something that might not cause any problems for one person might cause significant problems for another. On top of that there's the issue of personal conviction - if you are convicted to avoid watching a particular TV show you should avoid watching it, even if that conviction doesn't apply to anyone else.

 

[Frankj]

It's easy to draw a line and say that it's good to watch a sermon presenting God's word rightly divided. In between is a world of gray.

So what is the Biblical reference you use to establish that 'shade of gray' thing and what did Jesus teach about it?

Personally, I've never found anything Jesus said -or that the Bible says- to be ambiguous and subject to interpretation according to what your desire for it to mean is at the time you desire it.

But I'm willing to learn and change, at least if you can show me something solid to base a change in thinking on that is in accord with the teaching of Jesus.

 

[tango]

So what is the Biblical reference you use to establish that 'shade of gray' thing and what did Jesus teach about it?

Personally, I've never found anything Jesus said -or that the Bible says- to be ambiguous and subject to interpretation according to what your desire for it to mean is at the time you desire it.

But I'm willing to learn and change, at least if you can show me something solid to base a change in thinking on that is in accord with the teaching of Jesus.

Did I say anything about our desires? You're throwing up strawmen.

Try what Paul said about meat offered to idols, or what James said about knowing what we should do and not doing it.

Alternatively feel free to quote chapter and verse for every one of the assertions you're making.

 

[Manonfire63]

Christianity is standards based. Someone is fail or pass. They are a no-go or a go. They are In darkness of The Light of The Lord. (Ephesians 5:8) There is nothing wrong with seeking. Many people should be seeking. Given someone wasn't there, they dust themselves off and try again. There are no shades of grey. It is back and white.

In the OP, was someone in sin, looking to apply the standard in sin? That would be wrong.

 

[tango]

Christianity is standards based. Someone is fail or pass. They are a no-go or a go. They are In darkness of The Light of The Lord. (Ephesians 5:8) There is nothing wrong with seeking. Many people should be seeking. Given someone wasn't there, they dust themselves off and try again. There are no shades of grey. It is back and white.

In the OP, was someone in sin, looking to apply the standard in sin? That would be wrong.

No shades of gray?

Is it a sin to own a fast car? Is it a sin to have a big house? Is it a sin to go to the gym and work out?

The answer to all those questions is fuzzy. In and of itself it isn't a sin to have a big house and a fast car, and go to the gym regularly. But any of those things can become idols, and if God calls us to give sacrificially then spending the money on a fast car may be sinful for us.

Nobody can point to chapter and verse that says not to work out but if working out becomes an idol then it becomes a problem. Nobody on a message board like this one can accurately determine whether my car, my house, my fitness, even my service at church, has become an idol to me. And if something does become an idol the chances are it gradually takes a larger and larger role in life until it eventually takes the place that belongs to God. Can anyone determine the point at which this happens? Can anyone outside of the person's close circle determine that it has happened?

If God calls me to give sacrificially and I decide to spend a chunk of cash on a fast car while I'm nominally "testing the call", this probably isn't helpful. If God calls me to sell my fast car to fund a ministry and I hold off for a while so I can test the call that's a perfectly reasonable course of action. How long can I take to test the call, given my desire is probably to keep the fast car? Who knows - there isn't a chapter and verse that explicitly tells me. It comes down to being honest with myself and being honest with God.

 

[Manonfire63]

Who is saying such things are sins? I am not. Were you allowing false Christians to draw the line for you? You are fighting against them in the wrong way.....in sin.

God tests the heart. There are a lot of "Smarty Pants Christians." Smarty Pants Christians had some advanced degrees in Divinity, or otherwise believed they were an authority due to their education or other. They were of their own mind. There were Smarty Pants Christians in Ancient Rome. There have been Smarty Pants Christians today. They were of their own mind.

Someone needs to be "in God." There may be some guidance for people to stay out of sin. Follow the 10 Commandments would be some guidance. Love your God with all your heart and soul and strength and mind is more important. Loving the Lord your God is how a baptized Christian becomes "in God." In God there is sanctification, to be made Holy. In a process of sanctification, someone confesses, and works through their sins. In the process of, they may learn some things about how God was judging sin.

Christianity is Black and White. Someone saying "There are shades of grey"......I look at such people funny. I have found people promoting false mysticism along those lines. To such a person, I would name drop Aleister Crowley to them and see how they respond. They may have been in a false mysticism.

 

[Frankj]

Did I say anything about our desires? You're throwing up strawmen.

Try what Paul said about meat offered to idols, or what James said about knowing what we should do and not doing it.

Alternatively feel free to quote chapter and verse for every one of the assertions you're making.

Perhaps you would gain more by being introspective than defensive.

I have found that sincerely asking God to show me the truth about myself offers solutions to many of my dilemmas, and is also something that, knowing I will get an answer, is very difficult to do. It takes great courage to do this honestly, and trust in the Lord, but it also provides great rewards in terms of our relationship with him.

 

[Manonfire63]

Edit.

Misfire. Replied to the wrong thing.

 

[Frankj]

Christianity is standards based. Someone is fail or pass. They are a no-go or a go. They are In darkness of The Light of The Lord. (Ephesians 5:8) There is nothing wrong with seeking. Many people should be seeking. Given someone wasn't there, they dust themselves off and try again. There are no shades of grey. It is back and white.

In the OP, was someone in sin, looking to apply the standard in sin? That would be wrong.

I absolutely agree with you on this even though there was a time when I was younger that I would have argued against it.

There is right and there is wrong, 'shades of gray' is when you don't know the difference.

Or maybe when you don't want to know the difference.