Trump's authority to reopen the government

[NewCreation435]

President Trump made statements during a recent press conference that his authority is "total" to open the government back up. This includes authority over and above all of the state governors. "And that's the way its got to be." he stated. https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/14/politics/donald-trump-coronavirus-governors-economy/index.html

I would disagree with this view as it is the governors who have authority in each of their states. It should be that way as they know and understand the needs of their states better. What is your feelings about this?

 

[JRT]

Trump thinks that he is an absolute monarch.

 

[JRT]

Trump thinks that he is an absolute monarch.

 

[tango]

I doubt whether some state governors even know which way is up, the way they shut stuff down at random and have no apparent exit strategy. Even so it seems like reopening is something the state governor would decide rather than the president. The president may have powers to withhold federal funding if states don't do his bidding but, if the state can function without those funds, he loses at least some power.

 

[Lamb]

I don't think Trump is correct that he has the power to open up the states since that lies in the hands of the Governors. I'm not seeing what references he's using to back up his statements.

 

[Josiah]

President Trump made statements during a recent press conference that his authority is "total" to open the government back up. This includes authority over and above all of the state governors. "And that's the way its got to be." he stated. https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/14/politics/donald-trump-coronavirus-governors-economy/index.html

I would disagree with this view as it is the governors who have authority in each of their states. It should be that way as they know and understand the needs of their states better. What is your feelings about this?

I agree.


But note how the Democrats and their mouthpieces (the main stream press) are blaming Trump for the virus, for why it is killing everyone, and for and ignoring everyone in the world with a doctorate and thus being responsible for this whole situation in the USA. He had the authority and responsibility to shut the country down, they insist, but because of his extremely low IQ and his ignorance of everything and his distain for anyone with a college education, he did not do as he should have. This is all Trump's fault for acting too slow and too inadequately. Ah, but then they just turn 180 degrees to blame him for wanting to take action. NO! They scream, Trump has ZERO authority to do ANYTHING regarding the health and safety of the American people, his saying he would do something makes him a dictator, a king, because the president must do NOTHING! What hypocrisy. What a fraud. Obviously, if he not only had the total authority but the mandate to shut the country down (and is a foolish idiot because he didn't exercise this responsibility), then clearly he has the total authority and mandate to open it up.





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[NewCreation435]

I don't think Trump is correct that he has the power to open up the states since that lies in the hands of the Governors. I'm not seeing what references he's using to back up his statements.

I think it is clear from his statements that he thinks he has absolute power to do whatever he wants. This might go to the Supreme Court if he tries it because I would see the governors and attorney generals of multiple states suing him

 

[tango]

I can't disagree with what Josiah wrote. It seems the states want the power but if they fall short everything is Trump's fault. If he wants to act in ways that the states might choose he's a dictator but if he wants to act in ways the states might dislike he's reckless and irresponsible.

Of course he's "choosing the economy over lives" too, because it's not like anyone needs jobs and businesses to live.

It is somewhat ironic to see state governors arbitrarily deciding who may and who may not earn a living, when their paycheck is safe and paid for by everyone else.

 

[Josiah]

Trump now agrees it's up to the governors.

The press is simply unaware that Trump is not a career politician. He is a BUSINESSMAN. In the Business world, it is OFTEN the approach to BEGIN with a high proposition - one NO ONE has any intention (or even desire) of actually being the situation, but it's where the negotiation begins. There will be a counter. And a counter. And eventually, you'll end up in a "win/win" acceptable situation. "A good deal is one both sides call good." Personally, I don't use this approach ... but it very typically IS how the business world works. We've witnessed Trump do this many times now.... but because no liberal knows ANYTHING about business or ecnomics or the real world... and because they have an intense, personal HATRED of Trump, they will spin this as you'd expect (and the Press - their lap dog - will scream it over and over and over and over).




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[Josiah]

Trump desires to cut the funding the USA gives to the World Health Organization.,,,

See the post above, # 9....

Here's what bothers me. Right after World War I or World War II when most of these international organizations were founded, the USA was the only major nation on the planet Earth that was intact, that had a strong economy and fully intact industrial complex and outstanding infastructure. The rest of the world was mostly in shambles. SO, we largely paid for these international organizations, we picked up the tab since FRANKLY we were the only nation that could - at least to a major extent. But here's the thing: Here we are, SEVENTY YEARS LATER, the USA is STILL picking up the tab! Japan, China, Germany, France, the UK - these are NOT tiny economies totally in shambles with no industry or infastructure or national budgets, they have strong economies, big budgets, it's at least HALF A CENTURY over due for them to step up and pay their fair share. IF these various organizations have worth, they will - IF THEY HAVE TO. And if they are not of worth... and thus no nation WANTS to fund this, then maybe that organization should end.




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[NewCreation435]

Trump now agrees it's up to the governors.

The press is simply unaware that Trump is not a career politician. He is a BUSINESSMAN. In the Business world, it is OFTEN the approach to BEGIN with a high proposition - one NO ONE has any intention (or even desire) of actually being the situation, but it's where the negotiation begins. There will be a counter. And a counter. And eventually, you'll end up in a "win/win" acceptable situation. "A good deal is one both sides call good." Personally, I don't use this approach ... but it very typically IS how the business world works. We've witnessed Trump do this many times now.... but because no liberal knows ANYTHING about business or ecnomics or the real world... and because they have an intense, personal HATRED of Trump, they will spin this as you'd expect (and the Press - their lap dog - will scream it over and over and over and over).




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I would think that he wouldn't want that responsibility of being the one to open the government. It is better for everyone if the governors do it. He really can't win. If he were to wait too long to open the government then he gets blamed for being slow. If he does it too fast and the virus comes back and kill 20,000 more people he's a butcher. It's a no win situation

 

[tango]

I would think that he wouldn't want that responsibility of being the one to open the government. It is better for everyone if the governors do it. He really can't win. If he were to wait too long to open the government then he gets blamed for being slow. If he does it too fast and the virus comes back and kill 20,000 more people he's a butcher. It's a no win situation

In the eyes of the press I think whatever he does is wrong.

If he tries to take too many powers too soon he's a dictator. If he doesn't take enough powers he's ineffective. If hindsight indicates that there was even the smallest thing that could have been done better he's useless. If he tries to reopen the economy he's putting money before people but if he doesn't try to reopen the economy he doesn't care about working people.

Whatever he does he can't win in the eyes of the press so he might as well just ignore what the press says. I suspect he's not the only one doing that.