Thoughts on punishment for those who abuse animals?

[Messy]

You can love cats and call yourself a "cat lover", but if you feed your cats meat bought from the store, which you know is created by killing other animals, you are not an animal lover. You are a "cat lover", "dog lover" and whatever other animal species you choose to love "lover", but not an animal lover.


Indeed. I know of no animal that calls itself an "animal lover". They're inferior creatures, which means that we have a responsibility to protect them, because with power comes responsibility. That's what angels, who are superior to us, do in regards to us.


I don't call myself an animal lover, but I strive to eat as little meat as possible. Life circumstances, such as being disabled, prevent me from being a vegan.

A vegan who has a cat and gives him the rests of the meat can call himself an animal lover, because the cat needs meat and it would be hateful to not give him meat and those cows don't get killed to feed cats. They kill them anyway. At least you save some mouses and birds when you give em cat food. I would never want a snake though.
I agree that you're not an animal lover if you eat them. I find that so weird when farmers say they love their animals. Sure they are attached to them and it hurts when they all get sick, but they just let em be killed. That's not love. Someone who loves a cow puts him in a sanctuary.
But it's all luxury talk. If there is no food and your kids starve and the neighbour kills chickens and offers you some, if you say no you may murder your own kids. During the hunger winter in WWII they ate cats and dogs here.

 

[tango]

When I was a student living with other students it was such a mess that we got mice, so one got a cat to get rid of the mice and I was in my room and heard them screaming downstairs. They were all looking at how he was playing with a mouse and gonna catch it after torturing it to death. So I went downstairs, took the cat and locked him in my room. LOL that guy was so mad. Have to protect the cute little mousies.

Mice aren't so cute when they get into the pantry and ruin a load of food. If you feel the urge to protect them go right on ahead. I have a cat and mouse traps.

 

[Messy]

Mice aren't so cute when they get into the pantry and ruin a load of food. If you feel the urge to protect them go right on ahead. I have a cat and mouse traps.

My sister cought one with a mouse friendly trap, so they went with the car a long ride to release him, so he wouldn't walk away. They let him out, a bird of prey came and ate it. Thanks!

 

[tango]

My sister cought one with a mouse friendly trap, so they went with the car a long ride to release him, so he wouldn't walk away. They let him out, a bird of prey came and ate it. Thanks!

My traps aren't mouse friendly at all. I'm really not interested in driving a great distance to dump it somewhere unfamiliar to it, I'm quite happy dumping a dead mouse with a broken neck in the trash. In the summertime if it's going to be a week before the trash is taken away I dump it at the end of the yard. Maybe a predator will take it, maybe it will just decay naturally, but it won't make my garage stink.

 

[Messy]

My traps aren't mouse friendly at all. I'm really not interested in driving a great distance to dump it somewhere unfamiliar to it, I'm quite happy dumping a dead mouse with a broken neck in the trash. In the summertime if it's going to be a week before the trash is taken away I dump it at the end of the yard. Maybe a predator will take it, maybe it will just decay naturally, but it won't make my garage stink.

Lovely. A neighbour beat a goat his head in in his backyard and he bragged that he drowned mice and shot cats. He had also been in prison for killing a guy and I stayed there til 4 am listening to that because I thought he was a sweet innocent grandpa. I hope he got saved.

 

[tango]

Lovely. A neighbour beat a goat his head in in his backyard and he bragged that he drowned mice and shot cats. He had also been in prison for killing a guy and I stayed there til 4 am listening to that because I thought he was a sweet innocent grandpa. I hope he got saved.

Er, OK. I'm not sure how mouse traps that kill instantly even remotely equate to beating animals to death and killing people but whatever.