-This is for people who feel the same - I don't celebrate Christmas day, but I believe in celebrating Christ's birth.

[HaKawa]

I have many reasons why I don't celebrate Christmas itself. There are loads of pagan worship hidden in it, and scripture tells us not to adopt pagan practices. I have a tract I created. For those of you who don't celebrate as well, I'd like you to take a look. This isn't to point out people WHO DO celebrate the day here at the Haven. If this does make you think twice about Xmas, sobeit, but for my target audience is those who agree.

 

[Lamb]

I removed your zip file because the owner does not wish for files to be downloaded onto members' devices for security reasons.

 

[HaKawa]

Here is the Tract in it's entirety.

 

[HaKawa]

The last slide is the Salvation Prayer Jesus sent to me (I can't do any good on my own. The good in me is from He.) Feel free to share it, I have a non-Christmassy version as well.

 

[Josiah]

"CHRISTMAS" is the moniker we use in English for the celebration/remembrance of Jesus' birth. It is a contradiction to insist that one doesn't embrace Christmas but does the birth of Jesus. It's just silly.



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[Origen]

Calculating Christmas Day - The Stream

So how did the early church decide to celebrate Christmas on December 25th? Part three in our series "Born on Christmas Day"

stream.org

Calculating Christmas by William J. Tighe

on the Story Behind December 25

www.touchstonemag.com

 

[HaKawa]

"CHRISTMAS" is the moniker we use in English for the celebration/remembrance of Jesus' birth. It is a contradiction to insist that one doesn't embrace Christmas but does the birth of Jesus. It's just silly.



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Calculating Christmas Day - The Stream

So how did the early church decide to celebrate Christmas on December 25th? Part three in our series "Born on Christmas Day"

stream.org

Calculating Christmas by William J. Tighe

on the Story Behind December 25

www.touchstonemag.com

Believe what you want to,at the end of our lives, I'll know I'm following what the word says.

 

[HaKawa]

The scripture says what it says. Believe it, and follow it or don't. Do what 'is fun' or do what is righteous. I'm just here to spread The truth and light by using the words of the Holy Gospel.

 

[Origen]

Believe what you want to,at the end of our lives, I'll know I'm following what the word says.

YES, YES, YES, you are so much holier than us. Only you know the truth and we are all lost.

 

[HaKawa]

YES, YES, YES you are so much holier than me. Only you know the truth and we are all lost.

NO! I'm not Holier than thou, I used the Gospel alone to speak truth. I am very much a sinner so stop trying to make me out that way. Plus you have a Bible too you have the knowledge that I have as well you just choose not to use it.

 

[Origen]

NO! I'm not Holier than thou, I used the Gospel alone to speak truth. I am very much a sinner so stop trying to make me out that way.

No you just post a bunch of stuff and rather than discussing the evidence you simply expect everyone to accept it without question. Then you tell us all how you are just following the Bible, and we may do as we like implying that we are NOT following the Bible.
Sure, that in no way sounds like a holier than thou attitude at all.

 

[Lamb]

No you just post a bunch of stuff and rather than discussing the evidence you simply expect everyone to accept it without question. Then you tell us all how you are just following the Bible, and we may do as we like implying that we are NOT following the Bible.
Sure, that in no way sounds like a holier than thou attitude at all.

This pretty much sums it up and we get this quite often on the site where new members sign up because they want to teach us things according to their own convictions. At some point we're also told we're going to hell because we don't believe as they do.

 

[HaKawa]

No you just post a bunch of stuff and rather than discussing the evidence you simply expect everyone to accept it without question. Then you tell us all how you are just following the Bible, and we may do as we like implying that we are NOT following the Bible.
Sure, that in no way sounds like a holier than thou attitude at all.

I told you to accept the scripture without question because Jesus commands us to. I gave examples of everything pagan within the "holiday", with the scripture tied in. The Apostles had a hard time with people listening as well. I'm not saying I'm an apostle, but I am a follower of Christ.

 

[HaKawa]

This pretty much sums it up and we get this quite often on the site where new members sign up because they want to teach us things according to their own convictions. At some point we're also told we're going to hell because we don't believe as they do.

I never said you're going to hell, I said Jesus doesn't like this.

 

[Origen]

I told you

I don't follow you.

to accept the scripture without question because Jesus commands us to.

The problem is you conflate what you say as if it come from Jesus Himself. It doesn't.

I gave examples of everything pagan within the "holiday", with the scripture tied in.

And I said, and as the articles I provided show, your claims are erroneous.

 

[HaKawa]

I don't follow you.


The problem is you conflate what you say as if it come from Jesus Himself. It doesn't.


And I claim, as the articles I provide show, that your claims are erroneous.

You edited that.

 

[HaKawa]

I don't follow you.


The problem is you conflate what you say as if it come from Jesus Himself. It doesn't.


And I claim, as the articles I provide show, that your claims are erroneous.

The scriptures below are not coming for me but God himself so yeah Jesus did say it.

 

[HaKawa]

These are the most important scriptures out of that slide.

 

[HaKawa]

I don't follow you.


The problem is you conflate what you say as if it come from Jesus Himself. It doesn't.


And I claim, as the articles I provide show, that your claims are erroneous.

People can say what they want to, but Pagans have been celebrating Easter like celebrations long before passover.

 

[Origen]

People can say what they want to, but Pagans have been celebrating Easter like celebrations long before passover.

Really? Prove it. Cite a primary source dated before the time of the Exodus.

Primary sources are documents, images or artifacts that provide firsthand testimony or direct evidence concerning an historical topic under research investigation.