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It's because of this I have stopped giving my business to Amazon, which heretofore I had readily purchased books (on a variety of subjects) and some other non-book items.

So well done, lol. I had a smile watching the entire video. Roasted!
 

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Ah, more anti-Holocaust stuff? I had relatives who died in the Holocaust.
 

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And...? Most people who have ancestral roots in Europe can claim relatives who died during that time. I'm part German and part Dutch, so while I do not know directly my relatives who were butchered by Allied planes and treated harshly after the war, I do know that my kin were among them.

Good revisionist literature isn't about anti-this or anti-that, it's about getting to the facts over the fiction. It is a fact that Jews died during WW2. How many, how and why, however is up to debate. The fact that this is myopically focused on (over and above much more numerous slaughters of other peoples), brainwashed into children and made endless books and movies of which influences politics is probably one reason this fact-finding mission exists in the first place.
 

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Can one believe I got a lecture from a mod over at CF for posting this video in the messianic jew section? Oh believe it. Truth didn't really matter there, because it's like telling a kid there is no Santa...only upset children mattered.

Pre war: 6 million Jews

Sort of hard to argue with old newspapers.
 

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And...? Most people who have ancestral roots in Europe can claim relatives who died during that time. I'm part German and part Dutch, so while I do not know directly my relatives who were butchered by Allied planes and treated harshly after the war, I do know that my kin were among them.

Good revisionist literature isn't about anti-this or anti-that, it's about getting to the facts over the fiction. It is a fact that Jews died during WW2. How many, how and why, however is up to debate. The fact that this is myopically focused on (over and above much more numerous slaughters of other peoples), brainwashed into children and made endless books and movies of which influences politics is probably one reason this fact-finding mission exists in the first place.
Butchered by allied planes? If they were German yes, but they freed us. Especially the Canadians. My dad lived in Germany during the war, cause his dad was partly Jewish and afraid, so he sided with the Germans, but not totally. He didn't betray Jews, but he was always very anti Israel. My dad wanted to join the Hitler Jugend, Hitler youth, cause they had such nice suits, but his parents wouldn't let him. He was way too young to understand. For decades we had no contact with my granddad. It's a miracle he got saved. He also cheated with everyone on my grandmother. He would check if my mom was Aryan enough. Insane. But my dad saw those German cities that were bombed and said it was very sad, but should they have let us rot? I'm glad they saved us.
And my mom's family hid Jews in their home and her dad and brothers had to go to a concentration camp for it.
 

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Butchered by allied planes? If they were German yes, but they freed us. Especially the Canadians. My dad lived in Germany during the war, cause his dad was partly Jewish and afraid, so he sided with the Germans, but not totally. He didn't betray Jews, but he was always very anti Israel. My dad wanted to join the Hitler Jugend, Hitler youth, cause they had such nice suits, but his parents wouldn't let him. He was way too young to understand. For decades we had no contact with my granddad. It's a miracle he got saved. He also cheated with everyone on my grandmother. He would check if my mom was Aryan enough. Insane. But my dad saw those German cities that were bombed and said it was very sad, but should they have let us rot? I'm glad they saved us.
And my mom's family hid Jews in their home and her dad and brothers had to go to a concentration camp for it.

"If they were German". Actually, the Allies fired on just about anything that moved, without determining "if they were German". Even a train transport (of concentration camp inmates) was hit by the Allies. Later, when Allied troops on the ground found the transport and the bullet holes, they wrongly assumed it was mass murder by the Germans, and rounded up all the German camp soldiers and executed them. This would be something you could know if you watched some of the videos linked in the original video here.

Your dad may well have been accepted into the Hitler Youth or even the military. Contrary to popular knowledge, Hitler had some officers that were "half Jewish" (assuming this meant one parent wasn't). . As for being "Aryan", the National Socialist Party army accepted all kinds of non-Aryans in the military, from all over the world.

As for hiding Jews and going to a concentration camp for it, this is not surprising. International Jewry had declared war (economic war) in 1933. That made them, in the eyes of the German people, enemies of the State. It was probably easier and much more expedient to put the majority of them into concentration camps than to weed out who was likely a anti-German sympathizer or not. That being said, a large percentage of concentration camp inmates were Communists (Jewish or not) and criminals also made up some of the camp populations.

American Japanese were put into concentration camps, and many lost their families, livelihoods and even there lives. Yet there are no Indian lobbyists or film-makers or politicians of any clout to make movies, pass laws or act as lawyers for the American Japanese. That's why hardly anyone ever thinks about them. They don't own most of the major media either. So who's gonna cry any tears for them? No one.
 

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"If they were German". Actually, the Allies fired on just about anything that moved, without determining "if they were German". Even a train transport (of concentration camp inmates) was hit by the Allies. Later, when Allied troops on the ground found the transport and the bullet holes, they wrongly assumed it was mass murder by the Germans, and rounded up all the German camp soldiers and executed them. This would be something you could know if you watched some of the videos linked in the original video here.

Your dad may well have been accepted into the Hitler Youth or even the military. Contrary to popular knowledge, Hitler had some officers that were "half Jewish" (assuming this meant one parent wasn't). . As for being "Aryan", the National Socialist Party army accepted all kinds of non-Aryans in the military, from all over the world.

As for hiding Jews and going to a concentration camp for it, this is not surprising. International Jewry had declared war (economic war) in 1933. That made them, in the eyes of the German people, enemies of the State. It was probably easier and much more expedient to put the majority of them into concentration camps than to weed out who was likely a anti-German sympathizer or not. That being said, a large percentage of concentration camp inmates were Communists (Jewish or not) and criminals also made up some of the camp populations.

American Japanese were put into concentration camps, and many lost their families, livelihoods and even there lives. Yet there are no Indian lobbyists or film-makers or politicians of any clout to make movies, pass laws or act as lawyers for the American Japanese. That's why hardly anyone ever thinks about them. They don't own most of the major media either. So who's gonna cry any tears for them? No one.
The Japanese were on the wrong side. It's always sad for everyone, but Dutch and Indonesians were in Japanese camps, so they were the baddies. The Russians now, I feel sorry for those poor kids who are forced to fight. Just because Putin is evil doesn't mean all Russians are bad. I would have let everyone from Ukrain flee to Europe and good luck for Putin, just keep that country, but then he's gonna attack us too. He may anyway.
There were a lot of christians in the camps too.
Sure they would have accepted him, but apparently my granddad wasn't that evil to let him.
 

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The Japanese were on the wrong side.

You mean because the Allies "won" the war? Sure they did, militarily, only after America got involved (militarily after supporting both Russia and Britain financially). Imagine America joining with the murderous Soviets, who killed 10's of millions of (mostly Christian) Russians (and yes, Synagogues were left standing and churches were bulldozed in Bolshevik Russia...because Bolshevism was Jewish led and Jewish Financed). Of course, the average American Citizen probably knew very little of what Bolshevik Russia was like, because the Jewish owned American newspapers lied about it, just like they lie about a lot of stuff today.



Sure they would have accepted him, but apparently my granddad wasn't that evil to let him.

Because you have been trained to believe, like most westerners, that the Germans under the Nazi regime were the most evil people in the world. It's a theme that runs through all kinds of media and is pounded into the head of children from most western nations from an early age.

The winners write the history. They write the oscar winning movies and dominate the media.

Check out my link above (prewar: 6 million Jews) and tell me you believe that's all a grand coincidence.
 

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You mean because the Allies "won" the war? Sure they did, militarily, only after America got involved (militarily after supporting both Russia and Britain financially). Imagine America joining with the murderous Soviets, who killed 10's of millions of (mostly Christian) Russians (and yes, Synagogues were left standing and churches were bulldozed in Bolshevik Russia...because Bolshevism was Jewish led and Jewish Financed). Of course, the average American Citizen probably knew very little of what Bolshevik Russia was like, because the Jewish owned American newspapers lied about it, just like they lie about a lot of stuff today.





Because you have been trained to believe, like most westerners, that the Germans under the Nazi regime were the most evil people in the world. It's a theme that runs through all kinds of media and is pounded into the head of children from most western nations from an early age.

The winners write the history. They write the oscar winning movies and dominate the media.

Check out my link above (prewar: 6 million Jews) and tell me you believe that's all a grand coincidence.
The Nazi's were evil. Not all Germans were evil or all German soldiers. But a load of Dutch were also evil and betrayed their own country men, siding with the Germans. Everyone acts like their family was oh so great and saved Jews, but a lot were on the wrong side. Gypsies were also sent to camps, kids with Down syndrom, everyone who was not Aryan. The Nazi's were evil. A guy from Australia went to Holland and Germany and he rented a German car and drove in it in Holland. That was around 20 years ago. A lot of drivers were mad at him, cause they thought he was German. The Germans made the Dutch have nothing to eat. They didn't only treat Jews bad. Everyone hated them, not because of some conspiracy, but because of the stories of their parents who lived through it.
The Germans occupied us, France, Belgium. Canada saved us.
 

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Because you have been trained to believe, like most westerners, that the Germans under the Nazi regime were the most evil people in the world. It's a theme that runs through all kinds of media and is pounded into the head of children from most western nations from an early age.
"the most evil?" That would be hard to prove, but we likewise have been brought up NOT knowing that a shockingly large percentage of ordinary Germans of that era were completely comfortable with what the regime did to its minorities. I'm not referring merely to people being patriotic or, on the other hand, being afraid to do or say anything against the regime.
 
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"the most evil?" That would be hard to prove, but we likewise have been brought up NOT knowing that a shockingly large percentage of ordinary Germans of that era were completely comfortable with what the regime did to its minorities. I'm not referring merely to people being patriotic or, on the other hand, being afraid to do or say anything against the regime.
Corrie ten Boom would ask Dutch christians from the church to hide Jews in their home and some did, but others were like: I will not risk my life for a Jewish kid.
 

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Merely being anti-semitic is not what I was referring to above, but to a silent approval of what the Third Reich did to its racial enemies both at home and in conquered countries.

Most people in the West have been raised thinking that a normal human could not accept such cruelty and injustice except only for the German citizens not being in any position to openly oppose those policies. That is far from the actual facts.






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The other victims of the Nazis​

The Nazis did not just kill Jews during the war. Their political opponents, Jehovah's Witnesses, the handicapped, homosexuals, Slavs, and Roma and Sinti were also murdered on a large scale. Nevertheless, the murder of the European Jews takes a special place. Numerically speaking, they were the largest group of victims. Moreover, the Nazis set out to exterminate the entire Jewish people.
The only other group they intended to wipe out as a whole were the Roma and Sinti, although the Nazis were slightly less fanatical in their persecution. They murdered 200.000 - 500,000 Roma and Sinti from Germany and the occupied territories. The Roma and Sinti call this massacre porajmos, 'the devouring'.

Who were the perpetrators?​

The main perpetrators of the Holocaust were the Nazis who planned and carried out the mass murder. Still, they could never have done this without the support and help of millions of Germans and others. Virtually all government agencies were complicit to some extent. There was little protest from the population, although it should be noted that the Third Reich was a dictatorship without free speech.
The allies of Nazi Germany were often guilty of killing Jews themselves or of deporting them to Germany. In some cases, they succumbed to German pressure, in others, they did not deport their own citizens, but only Jews with foreign passports.

Declaration of reporting five Jews by the Henneicke Column in Amsterdam for a fee of 37.50 guilders on 6 April 1943. Four of the Jews turned in to the SS were murdered in Sobibor on 16 April 1943.

Declaration of reporting five Jews by the Henneicke Column in Amsterdam for a fee of 37.50 guilders on 6 April 1943. Four of the Jews turned in to the SS were murdered in Sobibor on 16 April 1943.
Collection: Joods Historisch Museum, Amsterdam

Throughout the occupied territories, there were numerous collaborators, who reported Jews to the Germans or helped the Germans to find Jews in hiding. Government agencies often followed the orders of the Germans and cooperated in the arrest and deportation of Jews. Sometimes they did so in order to prevent worse from happening, but their actions often had fatal consequences for the Jews. In Eastern Europe, some people sided with the Germans to join them in the fight against the hated Soviet regime. The Germans sometimes recruited personnel for the extermination camps among Soviet prisoners of war, for whom this was their only chance to escape death.
People collaborated with the Germans for a variety of reasons. Antisemitic ideas often played a role, but not always. Some people had personal scores to settle. Others reported Jews out of greed, hoping that they would be able to seize their possessions. Fear of the Germans sometimes kept people from helping the Jews.

Who knew about the Holocaust?​

It is difficult to determine how many people knew that the Jews were being murdered during the war. Few will have realised the full extent of the Nazi crimes. Yet in many cases, the population was aware of what was going on, at least to some extent.
In Germany, the plan to murder all Jews was officially a secret, but due to the enormous number of people involved, rumours started circulating before long. Soldiers stationed in the east wrote about the executions in their letters home and took photographs. Many others were involved in processing the Jewish possessions that were left behind after the deportations.

The Germans did not know as much about the extermination camps. Their existence was deliberately kept secret from the outside world. Still, the local population near places of execution, ghettos, and camps knew what was happening. In the rest of the occupied territories, this knowledge was less public, although it was clear that deportation to the so-called 'labour camps’ did not bode well for the Jews.
Reports on the murder of Jews reached the Allied countries from 1942 onwards, but the effect was limited, partly because they were often based on ‘hearsay’ and they reached the other side of the ocean with great delay. Besides, the Nazi crimes were so inconceivable that few could believe that the reports were not exaggerated. Only when the Allies liberated the concentration and extermination camps did the world fully realise the extent of the crime that had taken place.
 

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"the most evil?" That would be hard to prove, but we likewise have been brought up NOT knowing that a shockingly large percentage of ordinary Germans of that era were completely comfortable with what the regime did to its minorities. I'm not referring merely to people being patriotic or, on the other hand, being afraid to do or say anything against the regime.

Ah, the Hollywood version. Well, here's that side of the camp inmates Spielberg didn't bother showing the masses. Do these people seem mistreated to you? Surprised?

Holocaust Survivor Testimonies You DIDN'T hear
 

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treated harshly after the war
By whom? The ones who betrayed their country and sided with the Germans were treated harsh, but not by the English or American. By the Dutch. Women who had dated German soldiers were shaved bald. My mother was a kid in WWII. They hid a Jewish girl who was around 18, but she had to leave, cause she was stupid. She was smoking out of the window and flirting with the German soldiers.
 

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By whom? The ones who betrayed their country and sided with the Germans were treated harsh, but not by the English or American. By the Dutch. Women who had dated German soldiers were shaved bald. My mother was a kid in WWII. They hid a Jewish girl who was around 18, but she had to leave, cause she was stupid. She was smoking out of the window and flirting with the German soldiers.

Given the disposition you have shown so far, I doubt you'll watch this. But someone else might.

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Given the disposition you have shown so far, I doubt you'll watch this. But someone else might.

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I did.

As the narrator stated, the intention was to present only one side and that wasn't done very well. Most of the information provided is common knowledge among people who know anything of that era, and they can easily identify the many shortcomings of the film.
 
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I did.

As the narrator said on the film, the intention was to present only one side and that wasn't done very well. It has next to no value.

This post was written 10 minutes ago, I posted that link 23 minutes ago. That means, even if you started that 1 hour 30 minute documentary the second after I linked it, you watched only 13 minutes...

..and then chose to make a sweeping summary of it and conclude it has "no value".

:) Tremendous intellectual honesty displayed sir.
 
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