The Biblical Case for Self Defense

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The Biblical Case for Self Defense - Dr. Conrad Vine

OpenTools AI summary: In his engaging sermon, Dr. Conrad Vine examines the biblical perspective on the right to self-defense. He delves into scripture, highlighting texts that support the notion of protecting oneself. His discussion is both deep and informative, aimed at shedding light on how ancient teachings apply to modern-day issues.

Dr. Vine brings theology to life by presenting a blend of historical and current viewpoints. Not only does he interpret biblical teachings, but he also situates them within today's societal context. This dual approach enables listeners to grasp the relevance of self-defense from a Christian standpoint, making the sermon both relatable and thought-provoking.

With the sermon available in multiple languages, Dr. Vine's message transcends cultural and linguistic barriers. He reaches an international audience, engaging them in the age-old discussion of self-defense rights versus religious teachings. His thoughtful insights and articulate presentation make a compelling case for self-defense as a biblically supported right.

 

[Frankj]

In the Bible we are told that if a thief is breaking in at night there is no guilt in killing him, something further discussed in the Talmud when it says that if someone comes to kill you in the night you are to arise quickly and kill him first.

However we must consider in this that it generally refers to someone coming in the night, presumably willing to kill if someone is home to keep the crime concealed and escape punishment, and that someone breaking in during the day is not to be killed which is interesting in itself.

To me this means that if someone is breaking in when you can call for help to stop him, killing him is not allowed. In modern times that would mean that armed intruders are the ones that are to be killed in self defense, not a just a sneak thief that presents no deadly threat who is to be dealt with differently.

Some discrimination is required here, killing in self defense, IMO, should be a last resort instead of a first one.

 

[CrossWalk]

something further discussed in the Talmud

Just curious how the Talmud is relevant and what significance it has to Christianity?

And why aren't you complaining about this "long video" in this thread? It's quite a bit longer than the one you "disagreed" with in my thread.

says Frankj:

I pretty much agree with this, particularly with entire very long videos.

 

[Frankj]

Because Jesus was a Jew, a Rabbi, and knew and kept Jewish law perfectly while discussing it with other
rabbi's and because there was a written summary posted along with the video.

 

[CrossWalk]

I believe everyone has a God-given right to self defense and the defense of others.

Should everyone carry a firearm?

That's a very personal decision and one that I'm still very undecided about for many reasons. I have in the past and am very familiar with firearms, but I don't carry currently. When we place a priority on peace, it's hard to decide if carrying an implement of human warfare supports that endeavor or not.

 

[CrossWalk]

Because Jesus was a Jew, a Rabbi, and knew and kept Jewish law perfectly while discussing it with other
rabbi's and because there was a written summary posted along with the video.

Judeo-Christianity is an oxymoron, my friend. Christians have no business whatsoever with the Talmud. It is not a Bible-supporting text, quite to the contrary.

If you've studied it, as you seem to imply, you would know this very well. It contradicts the Bible profoundly in many places. Syncretism does not help any Christian understand the true teachings of the Bible.

God bless.

 

[Frankj]

Judeo-Christianity is an oxymoron, my friend. Christians have no business whatsoever with the Talmud. It is not a Bible-supporting text, quite to the contrary.

If you've studied it, as you seem to imply, you would know this very well. It contradicts the Bible profoundly in many places. Syncretism does not help any Christian understand the true teachings of the Bible.

God bless.

So why did you study it?

(I'm assuming you did since you seem to comment authoritatively on it.)

 

[CrossWalk]

It is also inaccurate to claim that Jesus kept the Jewish law.

Jesus ... kept Jewish law perfectly

Jesus kept God's Law, the 10 Commandments, just as He expects Christians to today. There is nothing in Scripture that indicates He kept, or even supported, the 613 Commandments of Jewish Law. On the contrary, He was critical of them to the scribes and Pharisees when challenged about them in the streets.

 

[Frankj]

You do realize that the 10 Commandments are a part of the 613 laws given to Israel?

That the other nations are under the original 7 laws given Noah (actually 6 before the flood and 7 after but that's another subject).

But an important question: You deny the Trinity so what variety of Christian are you? Who do you say Jesus is?

In any event, you seem to be leading away from the original topic of self defense. Is there4 a purpose in going that direction and is it significant enough to merit being posted as a new subject to discuss?