Speaking well of God - The Mystery of God

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I sometimes watch video clips on youtube and some of what I watch informs me of things that I think are worth knowing. Here is one such video. It is about The Mystery of God.
 

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Can you give a quick synopsis of the video?
 

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I think a LOT of what divides us comes from the large scale abandonment of mystery (especially in the RC Denomination, but to a lesser degree, generally in much of Protestantism, too). Substituted has been egoism and individualism. I have my Greek Orthodox friend to mostly thank for this insight....


In place of humility, community..... the RCC has given Christianity:

1. Pride. People INSISTING that God must submit to THEIR brains, THIER thinking, THEIR philosophies, THEIR theories..... "over-thinking"..... replacing MYSTERY with their own puny, limited, sinful brains. As my friend says of the RCC, "their amazing, unlimited ego means they just won't shut up but constantly invent new theories and doctrines, forcing God to submit and agree, dividing Christianity with their silliness." We are to be stewards of the MYSTERIES of God, not constantly forcing God to submit to OUR attempts to explain, limit, humanize things. I think of Purgatory, Transubstantiation.... oh, so much. Along with this is an obsession with POWER of self over all, this very Roman aspect of absolute, unaccountable, central LORDSHIP (power, authority) over all - equal to if not above God. Lording it over Christians as the Gentiles do (something Jesus commanded us never to do), confusing the egotistical claims of self for POWER with the issue of truth.

2. Individualism. The church is US - all of us, together. But sadly, Christianity (especially the RCC) ain't called the ROMAN church for nothing.... it inherited from Rome an utterly unchristian sense of INDIVIDUALISM, self-centeredness.... ME, ME. Read the Catechism of the RCC, it's all about that one denomination: itself and all the incredible claims it itself makes for it itself individually. Only IT can interpret Scripture. Only IT can speak authoritatively. Only IT is lead and protected by God. When IT speaks, God ergo must agree. The level of individualism in the RCC - the uber focus on ITSELF is stunning and obviously divisive. Early, there was at least a SMALL, TINY and very limited effort with the ECUMENICAL Councils but the RCC killed that by 800 AD when the last one ended. Now, sadly..... Protestantism is too much like our parent denomination (the RCC) in this regard, WAY too much individualism here too, way too much looking in the mirror at self (whether as a denomination or as individuals) - something we learned lock, stock and barrel from the RCC (of course no Protestant does this as badly as the RC Denomination does, no Protestant goes to the extreme that the RCC does on this), but yeah the "The Holy Spirit only speaks perfectly to ME.... I say.... I interpret" stuff applies not JUST to the RCC but we see it in some Protestants, too (the egoism, the individualism seems contagious, hereitary)

It's a large part of why I left the RC Denomination. But the answer is NOT more of the problem! MORE pride, MORE individualism - the very things that caused the MESS that divided things in 451, 800, 1054, etc. It's the antithesis. What we need is a strong, strong repudiation of that and a strong sense of HUMILITY, MYSTERY and COMMUNITY. One that can embrace MYSTERY.... one that can enable Christians to shut up.... embrace...... bow in humility before God..... together with ALL Christians (past and present). We have a LOT of work to do, undoing so many centuries of Rome's influence.



Thank you.


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- Josiah






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Can you give a quick synopsis of the video?

Not easily. If your pc is capable of displaying it (with sound) then the 20 or so minutes it takes to watch is less than the time it takes me to properly summarise it.

HOWEVER saint Paul says this: Then Paul stood in the midst of Mars' hill, and said, Ye men of Athens, I perceive that in all things ye are too superstitious. For as I passed by, and beheld your devotions, I found an altar with this inscription, TO THE UNKNOWN GOD. Whom therefore ye ignorantly worship, him declare I unto you. God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands; Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things; And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation; That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us: For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring. (Acts 17:22-28 KJV)
 
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The mystery of iniquity is the reason why it continues to gain ground in both its insidiousness, deceptiveness, and finally acceptance as a normalcy.
 

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The mystery of iniquity is the reason why it continues to gain ground in both its insidiousness, deceptiveness, and finally acceptance as a normalcy.

Is the mystery of God connected to the mystery of iniquity in your beliefs?
 

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Is the mystery of God connected to the mystery of iniquity in your beliefs?
The only mystery of God is how He does it.
2 Peter 1:19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:
The mystery of God will be finished, and no it is not connected with iniquity nor its mystery. We are to be not walking in the darkness but in the light that shineth from above.
1 Peter 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
For the Lord works in light not dark, nor will you find Him there.
Luke 1:79 To give light to them that sit in darkness and in the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the way of peace.
The mystery of God are the prophecies. These prophecies come to light as we need light upon our path to guide us through the ever darkening night this world is being cloaked in.
John 3:20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
His light shines upon us and the path of righteousness in which we must walk.
John 8:12 Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.
 
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