Shroud of Turin: Absolute proof the man in the Shroud is Jesus Christ

[brian100]

You can identify the man in the Shroud just with the Sacred Heart


close up 1

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These images got on it when the nuns tossed water on it to put out the fire in the 1500's.



Water stains.

Shroud Image (negative image on Linen)

 

[brian100]

Some Science on the Shroud

part 1

Fabric of Time

They said there had to be an Event Horizon in the tomb of Jesus to get (front and back images). Hovering body.

Isabel Piczek @ 35 minutes.

Science has proven nobody has made this.

 

[brian100]

The Shroud proves Jesus is Catholic.

My youtube slideshow.

 

[atpollard]

Science has proven nobody has made this.

Science: knowledge or a system of knowledge covering general truths or the operation of general laws especially as obtained and tested through scientific method

Scientific Method: principles and procedures for the systematic pursuit of knowledge involving the recognition and formulation of a problem, the collection of data through observation and experiment, and the formulation and testing of hypotheses

Pseudoscience: a system of theories, assumptions, and methods erroneously regarded as scientific

 

[atpollard]

FACT: However wonderful the image, the Shroud of Turin is not old enough to be from the time of Jesus and the Apostles.

In 1989 it was radiocarbon dated to AD 1260 to AD 1390. New analysis suggests that the 95% confidence may be too high, but nothing short of new radiocarbon dating of another cloth sample will prove any other age of the cloth. The cloth in the shroud was made long after the Crucifixion of Christ.

 

[brian100]

Actually Ray Rogers found out the carbon dating sample was taken from a reweave from that period. So good a reweave it fooled everyone's naked eye.

I just remembered meeting this happy Luke person who sent me a postcard for no reason at all 17 years ago. His first sentence must be a future message because I never understood it until now.

 

[atpollard]

Actually Ray Rogers found out the carbon dating sample was taken from a reweave from that period. So good a reweave it fooled everyone's naked eye.

Not according to a 2019 article in NATURE magazine, which is a scientific journal for peer reviewed research. Where was Mr. Rogers’ research published and peer reviewed? I would like to see what other experts in his field say about his work.

 

[Josiah]

The shroud is certainly interesting, but I disagree that science has PROVEN this was the shroud of Jesus.

Just ain't so.

Indeed, as atpollard pointed out, at this point, there seems to be a problem - by over 1000 years. But we don't have proof there, either.


- Josiah




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[brian100]

Science proved no man made the Shroud.

But, I proved it was Jesus, and Luke visited me for it.

He never told me I discovered it was Jesus b/c I'm guessing they want me to think it was on my own doing. But I think God may of revealed it to me in 2018. But what if I did it on my own? That means for 600 years nobody had any way of knowing who the man was until now.

 

[Andrew]

I thought Jesus had a separate cloth for his head.. Not a full body shroud

 

[brian100]

One was to sop up blood. They call that one a different cloth.

 

[brian100]

You can now see its Jesus Christ as this man in the Shroud w/ 100% certainty. And if you calculate the odds of there being an Immaculate Heart on the other side it goes to 1000%.

 

[brian100]

This guy did the most comprehensive review on the Shroud and he asserted its impossible to prove who this man was w/ 100% certainty.


part 1

part 2

part 3 had talked about how the water stains go on it but they removed it from Youtube.


But with True Catholic Faith like mine God tells you.

 

[JRT]

Jaques de Molay was the last Grand Knight of the Order of the Knights Templar. At that time the Templars had become the bankers of Europe and both the Papacy and France were heavily indebted to them. The solution was simple. In 1307 the Pope ordered that the Order be disbanded and the knights arrested. The king of France acted immediately and de Molay was arrested and tortured to confess that he was in league with the Devil. Part of his torture was a mock crucifixion. He was scourged, crowned with thorns and crucified against a heavy door. The torturers amused themselves by slamming the door repeatedly. They thought he was dead and laid him out on a shroud overnight in exactly the manner depicted on the Shroud of Turin. He did survive to later recant his confession and be executed by burning at the stake in 13 14. The man on the Shroud appears to have a forked beard which was a style popular in France at the time. This is right within the radiocarbon dating margin of error.

 

[brian100]

The Fabric of Time debunks anyone making the front and back images of Jesus Christ.

35 min Isabel Piczek.

 

[brian100]

You can now see its Jesus Christ as this man in the Shroud w/ 100% certainty. And if you calculate the odds of there being an Immaculate Heart on the other side it goes to 1000%.

Do you see it now?

The large image.
https://i.ibb.co/qFbDBVR/Shroud103.jpg

God put that there so you may all believe.

 

[Josiah]

You can now see its Jesus Christ as this man in the Shroud w/ 100% certainty. And if you calculate the odds of there being an Immaculate Heart on the other side it goes to 1000%.

Friend, with all due respect, I think you are working with an ENTIRELY different definition of "absolutely" and "proven."

Is it POSSIBLE the image here is of Jesus? I'd say, "yes." Now we could discuss HOW possible (I'd lean very much toward the "not very") but I'm not sure anyone can answer that with certainty.

Now, you seem to "play" a very interesting "card." The supernatural TOLD YOU. Hard to argue against that, but impossible to confirm that either. After all, God spoke to Joseph Smith and Mary Baker Eddy and Jim Jones all the time, too. I'm NOT saying (at all) that you are not being 100% honest and sincere in that claim, I'm ONLY saying it's largely irrelevant since it can in no possible way be confirmed. YOU may have "absolute proof" because some angel (or whatever) just TOLD YOU (individually and personally, you claim) but friend, that's irrelevant to whether there is proof... there's just YOUR confidence due to something impossible to confirm.

IF I told you that the angel Gabriel told me that Hitler is alive and well and living on the beach in Malibu.... and I am 100% sincere about that, and 100% convinced of that angelic message ... would you accept that as "100% absolute proof" that Adolf is lying out in the sand in Malibu? See my point? I MIGHT be convinced YOU are sincere, but that's a whole other enchilada and entirely irrelevant to whether the claim is true.


Glad to have you here!


Josiah




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[brian100]

Science already proved no man could make that and the only question left was who is he. I answered X 1000% sure.

 

[brian100]

The date Luke sent me a postcard (reply#6 July 14th) was the date I uploaded this to youtube. He knew the date 17 years later.

Heaven knows what you did in advance. . . wow 17 years out!

 

[brian100]

delete duplicate reply.