Sharing the Gospel

[Lamb]

When you share the Gospel with someone, what do you tend to say?

Do you ever tell the person God forgives him/her?

 

[psalms 91]

Depends on the situation. I try to relate to them and whatever problems they are having and letting them know that Jesus is the answer for them.

 

[Josiah]

"Be prepared to give a defense of the HOPE that is in YOU...."

I try to reply to what THEY ASKED. And to do so with what I was told are called "I messages." "I believe...." Not, YOU shoulda.... YOU are...... YOU oughta...... IF people ASK me, then there must be something IN me that brought that about, that inquiry, and I address it THAT way, what I believe, hope.

In my experience, this tends to come up MUCH more in church issues or moral issues (and occasionally in science contexts since I work with scientists). I don't debate (and if THEY insist, I drop out) and I'm not going to get dragged into THEIR assumptions. Here is what I believe. Here is my ethic. And I try to do it WITHOUT saying "and you are an immoral, deprived, sick moron who is going to fry in HELL cuz YOU are a sinner - unlike me!" I find people may not agree with me, but they tend to respect me - and perhaps gain an insight into Christianity. And maybe...... the door is left open for more talks.


Ain't saying that's good, just that's me.


My HALF cent.


Pax


- Josiah




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[popsthebuilder]

When you share the Gospel with someone, what do you tend to say?

Do you ever tell the person God forgives him/her?

I wouldn't say "God forgives you" so much as "God forgives". To know what God does in any situation, especially someone else's, could only be safely done if God communicated it with you somehow. In speaking the word it is humble to speak of what God has done. To speak of what he will do, again, especially pertaining to another's scenario is somewhat arrogant. We are to be humble, especially under God.

Faith in selfless Unity for Good.

 

[Lizzie TN]

When you share the Gospel with someone, what do you tend to say?

Do you ever tell the person God forgives him/her?

I think that should always come later. Too early on and it can seem judgmental because most unsaved don't know they need forgiveness until they've submitted themselves to the understanding of being a wretched sinner saved by the grace of God.

 

[Lamb]

So for those of you who don't speak of forgiveness, what do you think the GOSPEL is? What do you say? I'm really confused. :faint:

 

[psalms 91]

To me it is the good news that yes Jesus forgives and saves us from sin, all of us, noone looking down their nose as we all still sin daily, salvation in all its fullness being able to meet every need that we have, being able to be a friend to those who need a friend that is true, to be a father, to be all that we may have need of, that is the good news that we can preach to others especially that which we have experienced for ourselves.

 

[Brighten04]

I tell them. " Our Heavenly Father loves you. He loves you so much that He sent His only son to die in your place." Then I quote John 3:16. That spikes the interest and sets the hook. They want to know more after that. If the do not come back to you or ask more questions, trust the Word given. The seed is planted and it will grow.

 

[TurtleHare]

I tell them. " Our Heavenly Father loves you. He loves you so much that He sent His only son to die in your place." Then I quote John 3:16. That spikes the interest and sets the hook. They want to know more after that. If the do not come back to you or ask more questions, trust the Word given. The seed is planted and it will grow.

Do you tell them what his death did? Was it not important enough?

 

[psalms 91]

Do you tell them what his death did? Was it not important enough?

It is as the spirit leads at the time, you dont overwhelm them with a lot of stuff but yes if you can explain what the blood bought and paid for in the atonement then yes it is good to share that

 

[Brighten04]

Do you tell them what his death did? Was it not important enough?

If they ask I go into further detail. But only if they are interested in knowing more.What is the most important is that they know of our Father's love for them. Once they get that settled, then they become more receptive to the Good News. I don't hit them with "You are a sinner." right away. They already know they are a sinner.

 

[Alithis]

dare i reply ?

it is saddening so far to see no one has actually stated the Gospel.

but then i suffered a frustrating time period where i ws looking for how to share the gospel.
it is not that a lot of believers do not desire to share the gospel.. in truth not a single true disciple of the lord JEsus would desire NOT to .

the dillema lays in ..they simply do not know "HOW " -few (in fact almost NONE) denominations teach people the gospel or how to share it .but then they teach us almost as much about anything w are supposed to ALL be discipled in -
it is becaseu you can only teach and disciple someone in that which you are experientially doing yourself -if not you are passing on knowledge of a theory but teaching nothing useful(useable)l at all .

the Gospel is the most simple clear cut message there is .. it is such a precise simple message that the apostles and disciples who followed after them maintained the preaching of it in a "script like manner "

it comes in two simple parts .

the message and the response to the message .
the message must be preached (declared )
the response must be taught -(people dont always know how to respond to the message .

-so here it is

the message(simplified) is this : JESUS came to us and became one of us ,he was put to a violent death on the cross for OUR SIN (for he was innocent ) he lay in the ground three days and three nights and he rose again from the dead and live forever more

the response to be taught is ."repent and be baptised and you will receive the Holy Ghost (the holy Ghost is the eternal living spirit of god ..ie- eternal life )

THATS IT .. that is how simply the message is .. the lord JESus told them to preach repentance for the forgivness of sin and to baptise them and make more disciples (ie teach others to do the same healing them driving out demons preaching the gospel baptising them raising the dead and getting them baptized in the holy Spirit . )

1 Jesus -2 death- 3 resurrection
1 repent 2 baptized 3 receive holy Ghost .

on the day of pentecost peter delivered this exact message after his explanation he says .. this jesus(1) whom who crucified (2 death) has risen from the dead (3 )

and when they ask "what must we do to be saved", he replies (1) repent (2) be baptized (3) declares the promise of the holy Ghost (eternal life )

we repent to the father are baptisd into the death and resurrection of the son and recive the Holy Spirit - and are thus reconciled to "the GODhead " (3 as one) .

that is HOW SIMPLE THE GOSPEL IS ..

Paul states "i am not ashamed of the Gospel of christ Jesus for IT is the power of God unto to salvation to everyone that believes ........"

the disciples of Jesus (all who believe and obey and go on to learn to be like him) continued this same massage like "a script " a spiritual power occurs when this script is spoke in faith of obedience ..the mention of the cross and the sin brings shame on people who beleive .i have seen this occur with my own eyes ..i have seen people fall silent i have seen them manifest demons upon hearing this message and i have seen god give signs to them that the message(gospel) is the truth .

the disciples followed this script so faithfully that some 18 years later paul writes to the corinthians saying in
1 Corinthians 15:2.....and on "
Let me now remind you, dear brothers and sisters, of the Good News I preached to you before. You welcomed it then, and you still stand firm in it. It is this Good News that saves you if you continue to believe the message I told you—unless, of course, you believed something that was never true in the first place.
I passed on to you what was most important and what had also been passed on to me. Christ died for our sins, just as the Scriptures said. He was buried, and he was raised from the dead on the third day, just as the Scriptures said.

this simple simple simple good news has been blurrd covered up complicated and confused by the spirit of THIS WORLD .. when in all TRUTH ..it is as simple as
123 123

JESUS , death for our sin , resurrection

repentance baptism holy Ghost .

lets get back to doing it

 

[Lamb]

I did state the Gospel in this thread. Please don't talk down to members here.

 

[TurtleHare]

Forgiveness is what most denoms don't wanna talk about and you know why? Because that is too simple and removes man from it all which if course it does. Man receives what is given to him by God and that which was won at the cross and therein lies our salvation when man keeps insisting we have to do something then run and run fast because he teaches a gospel that isn't Christ-based.

Anything we do comes after the fact.

 

[Alithis]

I did state the Gospel in this thread. Please don't talk down to members here.

i just checked the thread -you used the word Forgiveness and the word gospel and some used the words "god loves you "
but its just a fact no one had stated what the gospel "good news" is .

so i have now stated it based fully upon scripture alone .
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the Gospel is the most simple clear cut message there is .. it is such a precise simple message that the apostles and disciples who followed after them maintained the preaching of it in a "script like manner "

it comes in two simple parts .

the message and the response to the message .
the message must be preached (declared )
the response must be taught -(people dont always know how to respond to the message .

-so here it is

the message(simplified) is this : JESUS came to us and became one of us ,he was put to a violent death on the cross for OUR SIN (for he was innocent ) he lay in the ground three days and three nights and he rose again from the dead and live forever more

the response to be taught is ."repent and be baptised and you will receive the Holy Ghost (the holy Ghost is the eternal living spirit of god ..ie- eternal life )

THATS IT .. that is how simply the message is .. the lord JESus told them to preach repentance for the forgivness of sin and to baptise them and make more disciples (ie teach others to do the same healing them driving out demons preaching the gospel baptising them raising the dead and getting them baptized in the holy Spirit . )

1 Jesus -2 death- 3 resurrection
1 repent 2 baptized 3 receive holy Ghost .

on the day of pentecost peter delivered this exact message after his explanation he says .. this jesus(1) whom who crucified (2 death) has risen from the dead (3 )

and when they ask "what must we do to be saved", he replies (1) repent (2) be baptized (3) declares the promise of the holy Ghost (eternal life )

we repent to the father are baptisd into the death and resurrection of the son and recive the Holy Spirit - and are thus reconciled to "the GODhead " (3 as one) .

that is HOW SIMPLE THE GOSPEL IS ..

Paul states "i am not ashamed of the Gospel of christ Jesus for IT is the power of God unto to salvation to everyone that believes ........"

the disciples of Jesus (all who believe and obey and go on to learn to be like him) continued this same massage like "a script " a spiritual power occurs when this script is spoke in faith of obedience ..the mention of the cross and the sin brings shame on people who beleive .i have seen this occur with my own eyes ..i have seen people fall silent i have seen them manifest demons upon hearing this message and i have seen god give signs to them that the message(gospel) is the truth .

the disciples followed this script so faithfully that some 18 years later paul writes to the corinthians saying in
1 Corinthians 15:2.....and on "
Let me now remind you, dear brothers and sisters, of the Good News I preached to you before. You welcomed it then, and you still stand firm in it. It is this Good News that saves you if you continue to believe the message I told you—unless, of course, you believed something that was never true in the first place.
I passed on to you what was most important and what had also been passed on to me. Christ died for our sins, just as the Scriptures said. He was buried, and he was raised from the dead on the third day, just as the Scriptures said.

this simple simple simple good news has been blurrd covered up complicated and confused by the spirit of THIS WORLD .. when in all TRUTH ..it is as simple as
123 123

JESUS , death for our sin , resurrection

repentance, baptism for the remission of sin , holy Ghost

lets get back to doing it .
when we die to self and speak this message .it has power to save those that believe and show they believe by their obedience to it .

 

[TurtleHare]

The Gospel should always speak of forgiveness, reconciliation, redemption because it's necessary for people to know why Christ had to die for us and what it achieved and by avoiding those is a disgrace.

 

[Alithis]

The Gospel should always speak of forgiveness, reconciliation, redemption because it's necessary for people to know why Christ had to die for us and what it achieved and by avoiding those is a disgrace.

and it does .. the "gospel we are to preach is laid out plainly in the scriptures as i have shared above .
You wil not i went back and edited into colour theterms forgivness and reconciliation .

what the message is and what our response to it is to be .the power is in the message ..we are to be the declarers of it .

we are to heal the sick ,drive out demons ,preach the gospel baptise and make more disciples that wil also go and do the same .

 

[TurtleHare]

The problem is that you add law to the gospel and mingle the two calling one the other and yet deny it when called out on it. Your view of repentance excludes the fact that it's God working in us and you instead make it a condition for salvation, removing Christ from the entire thing and then saying that we have to stop sinning all together or we cannot be saved. But Christ stops people like you because His death on the cross is covering me no matter what. If I reject His forgiveness then I have no salvation but I do have His forgiveness as long as I cling to the cross. That's where you reject the truth of the Gospel, you remove it's complete truth.

 

[Lamb]

You do realize it's God who brings us to repentance, yes? And that Jesus died on the cross before we committed our sins so they are forgiven already....right? Do you know that?

i just checked the thread -you used the word Forgiveness and the word gospel and some used the words "god loves you "
but its just a fact no one had stated what the gospel "good news" is .

so i have now stated it based fully upon scripture alone .
--------

the Gospel is the most simple clear cut message there is .. it is such a precise simple message that the apostles and disciples who followed after them maintained the preaching of it in a "script like manner "

it comes in two simple parts .

the message and the response to the message .
the message must be preached (declared )
the response must be taught -(people dont always know how to respond to the message .

-so here it is

the message(simplified) is this : JESUS came to us and became one of us ,he was put to a violent death on the cross for OUR SIN (for he was innocent ) he lay in the ground three days and three nights and he rose again from the dead and live forever more

the response to be taught is ."repent and be baptised and you will receive the Holy Ghost (the holy Ghost is the eternal living spirit of god ..ie- eternal life )

THATS IT .. that is how simply the message is .. the lord JESus told them to preach repentance for the forgivness of sin and to baptise them and make more disciples (ie teach others to do the same healing them driving out demons preaching the gospel baptising them raising the dead and getting them baptized in the holy Spirit . )

1 Jesus -2 death- 3 resurrection
1 repent 2 baptized 3 receive holy Ghost .

on the day of pentecost peter delivered this exact message after his explanation he says .. this jesus(1) whom who crucified (2 death) has risen from the dead (3 )

and when they ask "what must we do to be saved", he replies (1) repent (2) be baptized (3) declares the promise of the holy Ghost (eternal life )

we repent to the father are baptisd into the death and resurrection of the son and recive the Holy Spirit - and are thus reconciled to "the GODhead " (3 as one) .

that is HOW SIMPLE THE GOSPEL IS ..

Paul states "i am not ashamed of the Gospel of christ Jesus for IT is the power of God unto to salvation to everyone that believes ........"

the disciples of Jesus (all who believe and obey and go on to learn to be like him) continued this same massage like "a script " a spiritual power occurs when this script is spoke in faith of obedience ..the mention of the cross and the sin brings shame on people who beleive .i have seen this occur with my own eyes ..i have seen people fall silent i have seen them manifest demons upon hearing this message and i have seen god give signs to them that the message(gospel) is the truth .

the disciples followed this script so faithfully that some 18 years later paul writes to the corinthians saying in
1 Corinthians 15:2.....and on "
Let me now remind you, dear brothers and sisters, of the Good News I preached to you before. You welcomed it then, and you still stand firm in it. It is this Good News that saves you if you continue to believe the message I told you—unless, of course, you believed something that was never true in the first place.
I passed on to you what was most important and what had also been passed on to me. Christ died for our sins, just as the Scriptures said. He was buried, and he was raised from the dead on the third day, just as the Scriptures said.

this simple simple simple good news has been blurrd covered up complicated and confused by the spirit of THIS WORLD .. when in all TRUTH ..it is as simple as
123 123

JESUS , death for our sin , resurrection

repentance, baptism for the remission of sin , holy Ghost

lets get back to doing it .
when we die to self and speak this message .it has power to save those that believe and show they believe by their obedience to it .

 

[Alithis]

The problem is that you add law to the gospel and mingle the two calling one the other and yet deny it when called out on it. Your view of repentance excludes the fact that it's God working in us and you instead make it a condition for salvation, removing Christ from the entire thing and then saying that we have to stop sinning all together or we cannot be saved. But Christ stops people like you because His death on the cross is covering me no matter what. If I reject His forgiveness then I have no salvation but I do have His forgiveness as long as I cling to the cross. That's where you reject the truth of the Gospel, you remove it's complete truth.

You do realize it's God who brings us to repentance, yes? And that Jesus died on the cross before we committed our sins so they are forgiven already....right? Do you know that?

which part of its truth do i remove ? after all turtle is making a very serious accusation so perhaps ..even though you have declines to answer a single question as to whether you consider the direct scriptures shared to be true or not . you should have opportunity to state what part of the gospel i have removed or left out since i have maintained "quoting it word for word " turtle - has excluded an entire piece of the message of the Gospel.. "REPENT " and then accuses me of leaving somthing out ? and persists in ignoring what is plainly written in the scripture in order to maintain the false premise that continued practice of sin is somehow suddenly acceptable to God who has done SO MUCH to set us free from it just so we can go back and serve it some more ? the scriptures do not agree with that thinking . so again and again i ask ..shall i beleive turtle or shall i believe the scriptures ?

and i fully realize it is God who graciously gives us opportunity to repent to be saved and that he leads us to further repent .
but that doesn't change what John states in 1 john chapter 3 does it . = that a person who "continues to practice sin.. does not know God " AND " is of the devil " , no it does not change that at all.
because the truth he is pointing out is - when we know God and experience his grace it is made evident by the simple fact .. we stop practicing the sin . we cannot be Brought to repentance while we remain disobedient to the voice of the holy Spirit who speaks in direct agreement with the word of god and says only what he hears from the father . He - as you say ..leads us to repentance ..is it "works " to follow his leading ? of course not ..it is faith . Abraham displayed his faith in God not by merely saying he had faith in God ,, but he acted obediently and proved his faith was more the only words of the mouth . He took his only son of promise ,Isaac. up the where God showed him made an altar and laid his son on it ... his action displayed his FAITH . Faith is not knowing the truth faith is acting on the truth . as james says .. i wil show you my faith by my good deeds - faith not acted upon does not exist . just as love not expressed does not exist.


if the lord JEsus has set before you a table ,set and laden with feast and invites you saying "come sit down and eat .. he did all the "work" and prepared it all for you ... and then says to you , come sit down and eat .. if you stand there believing him but do not do as he says and ... being "walk to the table and sit down and eat .." you wil remain hungry .

your trying to say that walking to the table ,sitting down and eating .. is some how works that credit the preparing of the meal ..to yourself .. but thats rubbish. the meal was already prepared .. the instruction given to "come sit down and eat .

JUst So , the salvation is already prepared and the instruction given. Repent , be baptized and you will recive the Holy Ghost if you have faith in the invite ..you wil respond to the invites instructions .

again when you receive an invitation to an event .. it has on it the attire to wear ,the time and address you need to be there to experience the event ... So to gain entry and recive what the invite promises you, have to dress in the attire stated travel to the address and gain entry at the appropriate time .. - JUst So , salvation is already prepared and then invite given with instructions . Repent , be baptized and you will recive the Holy Ghost if you have faith in the inviter ..you wil respond to the invites instructions .