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Are there people you tend to avoid because of the way they look? What I mean is, do you purposely go out of your way to avoid them when out and about? Cross the street or swerve out a bit to avoid them?

Examples: people who look like gang members, people with a lot of tattoos, people with a ton of piercings, people who hold religious signs saying The End is Near?
 

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No but then there are not a lot of people like that where I live
 

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Oh yeah. When we go downtown we like to stay aware of our environment. If someone looks Criminal or the elevator doesn't go to the top floor we steer clear.
 

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I am a bit afraid of people who are talking to voices. I wait for them to pass before I venture out. They probably aren't dangerous but I'm extra cautious.
 

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Are there people you tend to avoid because of the way they look? What I mean is, do you purposely go out of your way to avoid them when out and about? Cross the street or swerve out a bit to avoid them?

Examples: people who look like gang members, people with a lot of tattoos, people with a ton of piercings, people who hold religious signs saying The End is Near?

For a while I did but when I got involved in direct sales to the public I soon learned that I couldn't afford to judge. Sometimes the guy covered in tattoos and piercings is the decent guy, sometimes the guy in his suit in church on a Sunday is judgmental and narrow-minded. I'm a big guy and people tell me that if they see me in dim light and mist I look imposing and sinister. On one particular occasion I was out late one night and it was foggy. I saw a couple of people coming the other way, who turned out to be a good friend of mine and her boyfriend. Apparently she'd seen me approaching (in silhouette only) and been desperately afraid - I'm probably about twice the size of her boyfriend - and was relieved when she realised it was me.
 

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Are there people you tend to avoid because of the way they look? What I mean is, do you purposely go out of your way to avoid them when out and about? Cross the street or swerve out a bit to avoid them?

Examples: people who look like gang members, people with a lot of tattoos, people with a ton of piercings, people who hold religious signs saying The End is Near?



I grew up on the beach in Southern California where "weird" is normal.

So, there's pretty much NOTHING that disturbs or shocks me. And I've learned that just because people are WEIRD well.... they often are very nice.


Sidenote (of sorts).... my tiny Lutheran parish is involved in a prison ministry. I've NOT (yet) participated in this (It's only 3 guys that go to the prison), they've all noted that when they first went and spent the weekend with the prisoners (staying in the prison), they were scared and expected scary men.... and were STUNNED by how nice these guy were, how respectful and grateful they were, not at all what they expected (perhaps from mass media). Now, these are CRIMINALS sufficient to be in a high security prison - so they ARE scary guys! Perhaps because it is such a controlled situation.... perhaps because these men volunteered to attend these functions... but the guys from my church all stressed how surprised they were: they found respectful, pleasent, nice guys.... their fear quickly vanished.
 

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I grew up on the beach in Southern California where "weird" is normal.

So, there's pretty much NOTHING that disturbs or shocks me. And I've learned that just because people are WEIRD well.... they often are very nice.


Sidenote (of sorts).... my tiny Lutheran parish is involved in a prison ministry. I've NOT (yet) participated in this (It's only 3 guys that go to the prison), they've all noted that when they first went and spent the weekend with the prisoners (staying in the prison), they were scared and expected scary men.... and were STUNNED by how nice these guy were, how respectful and grateful they were, not at all what they expected (perhaps from mass media). Now, these are CRIMINALS sufficient to be in a high security prison - so they ARE scary guys! Perhaps because it is such a controlled situation.... perhaps because these men volunteered to attend these functions... but the guys from my church all stressed how surprised they were: they found respectful, pleasent, nice guys.... their fear quickly vanished.
Most people in proson are just people who have made bad decisions or mistakes and just want to do their time, yes there are bad people there but most are just normal people who made bad choices
 

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No. I find that outer appearances can be missleading. Secondly we are to fear God alone. Who is to say that we are not to teach or learn from these individuals? Surely not God. Being scared of someone's appearance is not justified. Being cautious and vigilant ist being scared.

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I'm sure some people are intimidated by my personal appearance. But if a conversation is struck up they generally and quickly find that I am harmless for the most part.

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I know a man like that and he is a really nice person if you talk to him
 

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Matthew 10

“Behold, I am sending you out as sheep in the midst of wolves, so be wise as serpents and innocent as doves.

I think this verse applies to our topic. Be on your toes but don't judge too quickly.
 

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A lot of you are saying Don't judge and that's good advice, but yet, coming from an area of high crime, it's not always the best advice. We should be cautious of a lot of strangers when out and about, especially women walking alone. It's nice and sweet to think that guys who look bad aren't, but that isn't always going to be the case, now is it? I'm wary of a lot of people regardless of looks.
 

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A lot of you are saying Don't judge and that's good advice, but yet, coming from an area of high crime, it's not always the best advice. We should be cautious of a lot of strangers when out and about, especially women walking alone. It's nice and sweet to think that guys who look bad aren't, but that isn't always going to be the case, now is it? I'm wary of a lot of people regardless of looks.

... a valid counterpoint. REGARDLESS of "looks."

I have twice been the victim of crime, BOTH TIMES while traveling in Europe. The first was in Spain, when I was the guest of my very, very, long-time friend Mark. We were at a New Years Eve party at a poplar square in Madred. My (expensive!) camera, in my coat pocket, with all my vacation pictures on it, was stollen. I have no idea by whom. The second time was in Denmark (of all places... the Danes are the kindest, sweetest, most not-violent and most embracing people in the world). A man stole my wallet in Copenhagen... but only took out the cash, returning the rest to me (for which I ACTUALLY said "Thank you!!!). These are the only times I've been a victim of crime. NO ONE was "scary" around me in Madred.... and the man in Copenhagen was a clean cut, young Danish man in his 20's.

Good to ALWAYS be wise... although I OFTEN forget that.



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My wife was born in Colombia and lived in Venezuela where crime is rampant. She intuitively spots trouble and thinks most Americans are clueless to their environment.
 

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A lot of you are saying Don't judge and that's good advice, but yet, coming from an area of high crime, it's not always the best advice. We should be cautious of a lot of strangers when out and about, especially women walking alone. It's nice and sweet to think that guys who look bad aren't, but that isn't always going to be the case, now is it? I'm wary of a lot of people regardless of looks.
Good point about single women. I didn't think about that. Not that women are helpless. They are more likely to be targeted as such though.

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A lot of you are saying Don't judge and that's good advice, but yet, coming from an area of high crime, it's not always the best advice. We should be cautious of a lot of strangers when out and about, especially women walking alone. It's nice and sweet to think that guys who look bad aren't, but that isn't always going to be the case, now is it? I'm wary of a lot of people regardless of looks.

This whole "don't judge" thing is so horribly ripped out of context it really is terrifying the way people use it.

The idea isn't to judge individuals by their appearance. The young man with the shaven head, tattoos and leather jacket might be the guy who helps you after you've been mugged. The respectable looking gentleman in the pinstripe suit might be the one who pulls a gun and invites you to hand over your money, or who drags you into the back of a van to do who-knows-what to you when the van stops.

The point of judging isn't about totally disbanding all common sense and discernment. Be aware of your surroundings, be aware of people who may be following you, be aware of people who are getting a little closer than is appropriate. The thing about not judging means not to react to people differently just because of how they look. If the respectable looking gentleman is getting a little too close and making you feel uncomfortable, avoid him. Just don't be assuming the young man with the shaven head and tattoos that you see from across the bar is a thug because he has tattoos.

As you say if you're out walking alone you need to be alert. I find it amazing the number of times I've seen women walking alone after dark, with hoods up and white headphone wires clearly visible, looking down at their phone. They've created a situation where they can't see behind themselves, can't hear their surroundings, and aren't looking where they are going. They might as well carry a big sign saying "vulnerable, attack me". I'm 6'4 and a heavy set guy and when I'm walking in urban areas after dark I'm pretty alert. My wife comments that I pick up all sorts of things that aren't quite right. Sometimes I'll walk right down the middle of the street, sometimes I'll stay very close to the buildings as if I were actively trying to avoid being seen. Basically it's a total mix-up of behavior patterns that tends to wrong-foot anyone with ill intentions as they never know quite what I'm going to do next. As a rule your mugger types want to be sure they can pick someone off without too much danger to themselves, and the best defence against them is to throw out lots of uncertainty. Let them think that maybe you know something they don't, that you might be more of a threat than you initially appear, and chances are they'll leave you alone and find an easier target.
 

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I think of the passage that teaches against judging others is about being careful about what standards we apply to others because God will apply them to us.
If you forgive others for the wrongs they do to you, your Father in heaven will forgive you. But if you don't forgive others, your Father will not forgive your sins. (Matthew 6:14-15 CEV)

Don't condemn others, and God won't condemn you. God will be as hard on you as you are on others! He will treat you exactly as you treat them. You can see the speck in your friend's eye, but you don't notice the log in your own eye. How can you say, "My friend, let me take the speck out of your eye," when you don't see the log in your own eye? You're nothing but show-offs! First, take the log out of your own eye. Then you can see how to take the speck out of your friend's eye. (Matthew 7:1-5 CEV)​
 

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I'm going to buy some pepper spray to carry again ;)
 

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It can be useful
 

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Bear mace is pretty useful. Hint: don't wash with water, throw away clothes that have been contaminated. Don't care how ****** you are, shortly after a dose of that stuff you'll be cool as a cucumber. Milk helps.

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