Odë:hgöd
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• 1Tim 5:17-18 . .The elders who direct the affairs of the church well are worthy of
double honor, especially those whose work is preaching and teaching. For the
scripture says: "Do not muzzle the ox while it is treading out the grain" and "The
laborer is worthy of his hire."
The Greek word for "elder" is presbuteros (pres-boo'-ter-os). It corresponds to
aldermen; which Webster's defines as: members of a legislative body. In other
words; elders enact and enforce the proprietary rules and bylaws that govern
everybody in a local church; including its pastor. In some churches those rules and
bylaws are called a covenant; which new members are required to accept. The
aldermen are also responsible for settling disputes between church members (1Cor
6:1-5) so that they correspond to "the church" that Christ spoke of at Matt 18:15
18.
Aldermen aren't peculiar to Christianity. Councils pre-existed amongst Moses'
people prior to Moses' commission (Ex 3:16). Anon, seventy of Israel's elders were
established by God as a supreme council (Num 11:16-17). One's failure to
cooperate with their church's aldermen is grounds for removing their name from
the role. (Matt 18:15-18)
Since Christian aldermen sometimes wear more than one hat as preachers and
teachers; then it's very possible in a large church for them to have time for nothing
else, like for instance holding down a job. For that reason, their constituents should
try and compensate them with a decent standard of living. I mean, after all, if their
service to a local church is invaluable, then by all means the congregation should
do whatever it takes to keep them on staff where they can devote all of their time
and energy towards governing (that is; if you feel your church is a worthwhile
endeavor).
Let's say for example, that one of your church's aldermen is a retiree trying to
survive on Social Security and a diminished 401K. He'll be a lot more effective
towards your church's good if the congregation, whatever its size, pitches in to help
him make ends meet; and the outside world surely won't blame your church for
doing so unless of course they're as callous towards the needs of a senior citizen as
the heels of a hobnailed jackboot.
But beware that the congregation doesn't overcompensate its aldermen to the point
where they can afford to drive a Cadillac Escalade, wear a Rolex, and own an
expensive home in an up-scale district. That will really make Christianity look bad,
and actually work against Christ's best interests.
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• 1Tim 5:17-18 . .The elders who direct the affairs of the church well are worthy of
double honor, especially those whose work is preaching and teaching. For the
scripture says: "Do not muzzle the ox while it is treading out the grain" and "The
laborer is worthy of his hire."
The Greek word for "elder" is presbuteros (pres-boo'-ter-os). It corresponds to
aldermen; which Webster's defines as: members of a legislative body. In other
words; elders enact and enforce the proprietary rules and bylaws that govern
everybody in a local church; including its pastor. In some churches those rules and
bylaws are called a covenant; which new members are required to accept. The
aldermen are also responsible for settling disputes between church members (1Cor
6:1-5) so that they correspond to "the church" that Christ spoke of at Matt 18:15
18.
Aldermen aren't peculiar to Christianity. Councils pre-existed amongst Moses'
people prior to Moses' commission (Ex 3:16). Anon, seventy of Israel's elders were
established by God as a supreme council (Num 11:16-17). One's failure to
cooperate with their church's aldermen is grounds for removing their name from
the role. (Matt 18:15-18)
Since Christian aldermen sometimes wear more than one hat as preachers and
teachers; then it's very possible in a large church for them to have time for nothing
else, like for instance holding down a job. For that reason, their constituents should
try and compensate them with a decent standard of living. I mean, after all, if their
service to a local church is invaluable, then by all means the congregation should
do whatever it takes to keep them on staff where they can devote all of their time
and energy towards governing (that is; if you feel your church is a worthwhile
endeavor).
Let's say for example, that one of your church's aldermen is a retiree trying to
survive on Social Security and a diminished 401K. He'll be a lot more effective
towards your church's good if the congregation, whatever its size, pitches in to help
him make ends meet; and the outside world surely won't blame your church for
doing so unless of course they're as callous towards the needs of a senior citizen as
the heels of a hobnailed jackboot.
But beware that the congregation doesn't overcompensate its aldermen to the point
where they can afford to drive a Cadillac Escalade, wear a Rolex, and own an
expensive home in an up-scale district. That will really make Christianity look bad,
and actually work against Christ's best interests.
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