Our Faithfulness vs God's Faithfulness

[Sword7]

See, there you go double speaking again. Make up your mind. Repentence is offered to every man(sinner) because of God's great love. Jesus shed his blood one for all time and for all sin except for blasphemy against the Holy Ghost. Now you say God does love man(sinner). Then you also say God hates the sinner(man). That is talking out of both sides of your neck.

no it just isn't agreeing with a certain churched mindset . the opportunity to repent is offered to ALL ./ but the word repent means to "rethink " to change your mind about the way you are going and the actions you are doing .to change your mind agree with God and go His way and do his will no longer the will of your flesh . the person who refuses to do this but instead keeps choosing to do their sin .is cast into everlasting darkness .they are not loved . love STILL remains faithfully there for them to enter into . God IS love and he is there for ALL who repent . not those who pretend to repent . he knows the heart he is not fooled . this is why it is written that those who DO unrighteousness will of it reap death .
God makes us righteousness IN Jesus .but if we then DO unrighteousness we will reap its fruit . this is simply what is written . when we love him we abide IN him when we abide IN him we obey him when we obey him we DO righteousness and reap everlasting life .

when we only say we believe but we do not ACT as if anything he says is true , but keep choosing to DO unrighteousness and refusing to stop ,do we think he is fooled ? when we come to him and say lord lord i'm sorry i did that AGAIN for the umpteenth time this month ,please forgive me . Do you think he cannot see the intent of our hearts that in our hearts we are already planning to "do it again " do you think God most high is fooled by the hypocrisy of that ? He is Not, Jesus came out of the desert and the first thing he preached is "repent .. change your mind ,stop going and acting the way you have been . sin does not exist with out the sinner , transgression does not exist without the transgressor .

it does not say " forgive us the sin that sins ,it says forgive us OUR sin .
and it does not say as we forgive the sin that sins against us but as we forgive THOSE that sin against us .

when the lord comes to execute judgement on the day of the lord he dos not the sin into the lake of fire .but sinners .
this is why it is deadly serious we do not preach a false hope .eternal life in JESS is available to all ..all who will repent and obey him .this opportunity is made available by the great love where with God has loved us . but to not freely avail oneself of his love and grasp hold of the freedom he is offering but rather continue in the very behavior that is sin and results in death ,is to hold Jesus in the highest contempt .

 

[atpollard]

John 3:16-21
16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. 19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. 20 Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed. 21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what they have done has been done in the sight of God.

Just tossing out a few quick thoughts:
v.16 The word "world" is kosmos (G2889) and can mean:
A. an apt and harmonious arrangement or constitution, order, government
B. ornament, decoration, adornment, i.e. the arrangement of the stars, 'the heavenly hosts', as the ornament of the heavens. 1 Pet. 3:3
C. the world, the universe
D. the circle of the earth, the earth
E. the inhabitants of the earth, men, the human family
F. the ungodly multitude; the whole mass of men alienated from God, and therefore hostile to the cause of Christ
G. world affairs, the aggregate of things earthly
the whole circle of earthly goods, endowments riches, advantages, pleasures, etc, which although hollow and frail and fleeting, stir desire, seduce from God and are obstacles to the cause of Christ
H. any aggregate or general collection of particulars of any sort
the Gentiles as contrasted to the Jews (Rom. 11:12 etc)
... so some care must be taken in assuming that it means any particular meaning.

v.18 Note that even in his coming to save the world, there are two irreconcilable fates. Believes = not condemned, Not believe = stands condemned ALREADY. Present not future tense.

v.19 Note the verdict ... people loved darkness. Some people or all people? (Ask Romans).

v.20 Everyone who does evil hates the light (Jesus) and will not come to the light (Jesus). Who has done evil? Let me turn that around, who is without sin?

v.21 Can anyone live by the truth in their own power?


Consider ...

Romans 9:10-17
10 Not only that, but Rebekah’s children were conceived at the same time by our father Isaac. 11 Yet, before the twins were born or had done anything good or bad—in order that God’s purpose in election might stand: 12 not by works but by him who calls—she was told, “The older will serve the younger.” 13 Just as it is written: “Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.”
14 What then shall we say? Is God unjust? Not at all! 15 For he says to Moses,
“I will have mercy on whom I have mercy,
and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.”
16 It does not, therefore, depend on human desire or effort, but on God’s mercy. 17 For Scripture says to Pharaoh: “I raised you up for this very purpose, that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.” 18 Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden.