Novel arguments for God's existence.

[just_legalism]

So I am a writer, I write essays on Christian teaching. I used to be an engineer, but quit, to take up my cross and work for the Lord.

I've come up with 3 novel arguments for God's existence in the past year.

They, with a short summary, are (in chronological order)

1. The argument from objective morality: morality is objective, so God must exist as its divine Author and Judge. We know morality is objective from primarily social evidence, though also through our conscience which has connection to the Holy Spirit

2. The transcendental argument regarding morality: the fact that we have morality, conscience, etc. necessitates a divine author

3. The argument from pro-social behavior: human socialness, spirituality, religiosity, is divine and not material

Have you thought about new arguments for God's existence? Please post if so! If you would like a 2-3 minute video explanation of the arguments, please message me and I will link you to my Instagram, which contain these videos, as well as 70+ videos on Christian teaching

 

[tango]

With respect I'm not sure how novel your "novel arguments" are.

Some argue that morality is objective while others argue it is subjective. The trouble with subjective morality is that under such a regime we don't get to say that people like Hitler were bad because there's no objective yardstick that can determine Hitler was bad while our standards (in this case not exterminating Jews) are good. The trouble with objective morality as an argument is that many lesser moral decisions are increasingly regarded as subjective - should I "forget" that cash transaction when filing my taxes, should I cheat on my girlfriend because I'm planning on breaking it off with her anyway, should I break the speed limit because the road is empty and I'm in a hurry, and so on. We can always come up with some justification for the things we want to do, even as we are equally inventive in coming up with reasons why other people should follow the rules.

The fact that morality exists may indicate some kind of divine author but some of what we might call morality could be argued to be a matter of propagating the species and our own genes. It turns much of social interaction into some kind of transactional game and fails to account for people going far beyond the call of duty to help a stranger, but potentially undermines at least part of the claim that it necessitates a divine author.

The urge to worship certainly suggests we were made to worship, but some might argue it suggests a sense of awe at things that are much bigger than we are. I feel very insignificant standing on the top of a mountain range, or at the edge of a gorge, or even on a ship seeing nothing but water in all directions. Does that mean I was made to worship (presumably by some being that wants my worship), or does it simply mean I can stand in awe at the scale of what's around me?

 

[Frankj]

One possible flaw I see already:

Every argument is true if its premise is true.

So what is your premise?

Everything I see proposed here is just as easily (and is) argued based on evolution with the premise that evolution is true.

This would also be the same using The Probabilistic Infinity Argument or Simulation Hypothesis as your premise.

All arguments must rely on their premise, and the truth of premise cannot be demonstrated by arguments made that are based on it being true in the first place.

 

[BruceLeiter]

Here is my argument:

1) In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth (Genesis 1:1).
2) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was God, and the Word was with God (John 1:1).
3) Joh 14:16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Helper, to be with you forever,
Joh 14:17 even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows him. You know him, for he dwells with you and will be in you.
4) Deu 6:4 “Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one.
Deu 6:5 You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might.

My conclusion: God is clearly shown to be three Persons in one God. No humans could have imagined such a God. Therefore, he must have revealed himself that way to the writers of the Bible.

 

[SetFree]

Have you thought about new arguments for God's existence? Please post if so! If you would like a 2-3 minute video explanation of the arguments, please message me and I will link you to my Instagram, which contain these videos, as well as 70+ videos on Christian teaching

The Hebrews 11:3 verse is a profound Testimony proof of God's existence. Some here do not agree though, and too bad for them.

Heb 11:3
3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
KJV


The Romans 1:18-20 Scripture is related to that Hebrews 11:3 subject:

Rom 1:18-20
18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

20 For the invisible things of Him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
KJV


Man's field of Physics agrees with that premise in red, that the "things which are seen were not made of things which do appear." That simply means that material things seen made of material matter were not created by material matter.

Modern science agrees, because one of the basic laws of Physics in thermodynamics is the fact that material matter can neither be created nor destroyed, but only changes to different states, like solids, liquids, gas, or vapor.

That means... something outside... of the material universe had to have created material matter.

God's written Word reveals the existence of two different dimensions of existence, this earthly one we live in, which includes the whole universe made up of material matter, and then the Heavenly dimension where God and the angels dwell, which is made up of Spirit. Like Lord Jesus said in John 3:6, "That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit."

This means the scientific point of the origin of the material universe hinges upon it not having sprung from material matter, but from that other dimension of Spirit. And per John 4:24, "God is a Spirit".

Thus both of those Hebrews 11:3 and Romans 1:18-20 Scriptures are stating that proof of the existence of God is given simply by the existence of the material universe, because it did not create itself.

Atheistic materialists can go around in circles talking about the Big Bang and such, while leaving God out of it, but they still cannot get around the fact what their colleagues have even declared about material matter, that it can neither be created nor destroyed, but it only changes it state, thus pointing directly to something outside the realm of the material universe that created matter.

 

[just_legalism]

The Hebrews 11:3 verse is a profound Testimony proof of God's existence. Some here do not agree though, and too bad for them.

Heb 11:3
3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
KJV


The Romans 1:18-20 Scripture is related to that Hebrews 11:3 subject:

Rom 1:18-20
18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

20 For the invisible things of Him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
KJV


Man's field of Physics agrees with that premise in red, that the "things which are seen were not made of things which do appear." That simply means that material things seen made of material matter were not created by material matter.

Modern science agrees, because one of the basic laws of Physics in thermodynamics is the fact that material matter can neither be created nor destroyed, but only changes to different states, like solids, liquids, gas, or vapor.

That means... something outside... of the material universe had to have created material matter.

God's written Word reveals the existence of two different dimensions of existence, this earthly one we live in, which includes the whole universe made up of material matter, and then the Heavenly dimension where God and the angels dwell, which is made up of Spirit. Like Lord Jesus said in John 3:6, "That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit."

This means the scientific point of the origin of the material universe hinges upon it not having sprung from material matter, but from that other dimension of Spirit. And per John 4:24, "God is a Spirit".

Thus both of those Hebrews 11:3 and Romans 1:18-20 Scriptures are stating that proof of the existence of God is given simply by the existence of the material universe, because it did not create itself.

Atheistic materialists can go around in circles talking about the Big Bang and such, while leaving God out of it, but they still cannot get around the fact what their colleagues have even declared about material matter, that it can neither be created nor destroyed, but it only changes it state, thus pointing directly to something outside the realm of the material universe that created matter.

This is the best argument I've seen for God's existence by far, sir. May I ask: what is your profession?

 

[SetFree]

This is the best argument I've seen for God's existence by far, sir. May I ask: what is your profession?

I worked as an aviation mechanic most of life, but I do have education in Aerospace Administration. And I traveled extensively while in the USAF.