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The Democratic Party is reacting RADICALLY....

There is a FLOOD of people running for the nomination of that party. The ONLY one who even BEGINS to be mainstream is Joe Biden and the Dems will be sure to derail him (he actually could get the nomination and could get elected - and their radical movement will be set back).

This happens at times.... Just one example on the other side was Berry Goldwater in 1964. A whole new movement within the Republican Party was coming to life..... it HAD to force "old school" folks like Rockefeller out of the way and create a new Party. And they got Goldwater nominated. He went up against an unpopular Democrat, Johnson, but lost in one of the biggest landslides in US history. These young Democrats - trying to create a European like radical leftist party, trying to bring an American form of communism to our country, trying to bring a very radical New Green Deal, etc. - they are too young to know what happened on the other side in 1964 (and all the other examples) - but it's what they seek. Trump, I suspect, could not be happier. These socialist/communist/radicals will show their colors in their fight to get the nomination - each trying to be MORE radical, more extreme, more outside than the other - and kill each other in the process. The wounded RADICAL with extremist, untried ideas that hit everyone where they live and work - will come up against Trump and the best economy in decades and sound liberties and seemingly American view. How else could Trump get re-elected? Any of the candidates so far (except Biden) makes Hilary Clinton look beautiful and the obvious choice against Trump (but she lost). He needs to run against some IDIOT.... and it seems that's what the Democrats will give him. In 2024, will sanity return?





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The KKK is a "Christian" organisation.

in the 1960 Democrats in the south of the USA were notoriously racist, now the south of the USA is Republican and still houses a lot of Racist sentiment.
 

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The KKK is a "Christian" organisation.

in the 1960 Democrats in the south of the USA were notoriously racist, now the south of the USA is Republican and still houses a lot of Racist sentiment.
Not even remotely true
 

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The KKK is a "Christian" organisation.

in the 1960 Democrats in the south of the USA were notoriously racist, now the south of the USA is Republican and still houses a lot of Racist sentiment.

From Wikipedia Although members of the KKK swear to uphold Christian morality, virtually every Christian denomination has officially denounced the KKK.
 

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The KKK is a "Christian" organisation.

in the 1960 Democrats in the south of the USA were notoriously racist, now the south of the USA is Republican and still houses a lot of Racist sentiment.

Do you mean they claim to be Christian, or they are accepted as Christians by the mainstream church community?

Fred Phelps and his band of nutjobs presumably claim to be Christian but I doubt you'd find very many within the Christian community that accept them as such.
 

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I think one major issue Trump might face is that the economy isn't really doing particularly well, if you're not already fairly well off. It's not Trump's fault, it's a system passed down from administration to administration and the rot started way back.

The low base interest rates essentially allows Wall Street to carry trades at little to no cost, sometimes at a negative cost. If interest rates to carry a trading position are lower than the rate of inflation then effectively they are being paid to carry open positions. At the same time Main Street faces marginally more realistic interest rates, meaning it costs real money to borrow and invest.

The stock market has hit record highs relentlessly since Trump took office but the stock market can be a fickle beast, and isn't a particularly useful metric to measure how the economy is doing from the perspective of someone who doesn't have the spare cash to invest in the market. It's also not much comfort to the person who sees stores closing their doors permanently, shopping malls containing growing numbers of boarded up stores and losing their anchor stores and the like.

One trouble with modern day financial engineering is that, if used unwisely, it can create an illusion of prosperity while increasing vulnerability to external shock events. For a time it was pretty much the done thing for a company that owned large swathes of real estate to sell them for a lump sum, then rent them back. Which is great, as long as the lump sum is used wisely. If the lump sum is used for little more than executive bonuses and stock buybacks, the company's cashflow is forever hit with additional costs, rendering it more vulnerable to a downturn in sales.

Of course none of this is the fault of whoever happens to occupy the White House at the time it all goes south but you can be sure that if it happens to collapse on Trump's watch (or if the powers that be can engineer a collapse at an electorally convenient time) the media will be very quick to crow about how the economic benefits of the Trump administration proved to be an illusion. I don't imagine they will say the same about the eight years of "growth" seen under Obama that did little more to help the people at the bottom than the "growth" under Trump.
 

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From Wikipedia Although members of the KKK swear to uphold Christian morality, virtually every Christian denomination has officially denounced the KKK.

Except for the denominations that share their views. In the end there really isn't any completely reliable way to decide who is and who is not a Christian if they say "I am a Christian". Unless, of course, you're willing to concede that works really do set the tone of Christian faith and when the works are bad then the faith is too.
 

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Not even remotely true

You can pretend that KKK groups don't say "we're Christians" but you'd be pretending because in reality they do.
 

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Do you mean they claim to be Christian, or they are accepted as Christians by the mainstream church community?

Fred Phelps and his band of nutjobs presumably claim to be Christian but I doubt you'd find very many within the Christian community that accept them as such.

Do you depend on others accepting your claim to be a Christian to make it true?
 

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You can pretend that KKK groups don't say "we're Christians" but you'd be pretending because in reality they do.
Well I guarantee they aren't baptist or pentecostal if you catch my drift
 

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Do you depend on others accepting your claim to be a Christian to make it true?

I'm not sure what that has to do with it. Jesus said "you will know them by their fruits". I struggle to see how picketing funerals telling people that "God Hates Fags" represents the kind of fruit we're supposed to be showing, especially since my Bible doesn't support the claim anywhere.
 

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Going back to the video, I had to smirk at her "Blexit" tag.
 

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You can pretend that KKK groups don't say "we're Christians" but you'd be pretending because in reality they do.
Their handbook is called "Kloran", no surprise since Muhammed is described as having a "white complexion", hates his enemies (Jews and blacks), owned black slave girls, called ethiopians "raisin heads" and describes Satan as being a black man...
I don't believe they are Christian since they burn crosses and don't follow Christ's teachings to love your enemies IMO
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You can pretend that KKK groups don't say "we're Christians" but you'd be pretending because in reality they do.

Claiming to be a Christian does not make one a Christian...

Or do you think it does?

And even granting your claim, this simply makes them heretical Christians...


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