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- Jun 12, 2015
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Likewise there is no mention of their(yosef/miriam)celibacy after Yeshua was born.
So, you finally agree with me. How long did that take, LOL
The Bible is SILENT as to the question of whether (after Jesus was born) Mary had sex or additional children. Which is likely why in 17 PAGES of this thread, over 320 posts, you (and others) had to evade my request for the verses that state, "Mary had sex" and "Mary had other kids." Why were you mandated to evade this request, to persistently ignore it? Because the Bible nowhere states that. This has been my consistent claim for 17 pages of post;.... but you and others argued otherwise.
The Bible is SILENT. It nowhere states, "Mary had sex after Jesus was born" and equally, it nowhere states "Mary did not have sex after Jesus was born." It nowhere states, "Mary had other kids" and it nowhere states, "Mary did not have other kids." This has been my consistent claim for 17 pages of posts.... but you and others have argued otherwise.
Now, while the Bible is SILENT, Tradition is NOT. Tradition - the ancient, universal faith of the church, of the whole family of Christians. The Tradition that gave us the Bible (because God never sent out a memo to every Christian as to the Table of Contents of the Bible), the issue of which books make up the corpus of Scriptures comes from TRADITION, not some memo from God we got in the mail... The reality is no book in the Bible tells us what books should be in the Bible, the very books you point to in order to see if Mary had sex are a product of Tradition. Now, since at least the year 110 AD, we find the firm and universal faith that Mary never had sex.... and Mary never had other kids. Ancient, universal faith. True, the Bible doesn't say that, but nor does the Bible contradict that. And in the original, there was NOTHING that remotely suggested or implied otherwise (although I agree in 21st Century ENGLISH, some words may IMPLY otherwise - but in the First Century, no one knew English). The firm conviction of the Trinity, the divinity of Jesus, what books are Scripture .... that Tradition included that Mary remained a virgin and had no other kids. It's a matter of Tradition (just like what Books are Scripture). Luther accepted this Tradition. Calvin accepted this Tradition. John Wesley accepted this Tradition. Indeed, no one believed otherwise. There were some who questioned the Tradition of the Trinity, of the Divinity of Jesus, of the content of Scripture (all weaker Traditions) but no one questioned that Mary remained a virgin.
Now, about 200 years ago, there were a tiny number of radical, super-liberal Protestants who denied the authority and accuracy of Scripture, who denied the Virgin Birth who denied the divinity of Jesus, and who argued that of course Mary had sex - all women do. Now, they never remotely claimed that this new position was taught (or even remotely suggested in the Greek Bible), they simply felt that this (like the divinity of Jesus) was a myth - and they were mythbusters. Ironically.... some modern American "Evangelicals" now echo their new invention, this idea that Mary had lotsa sex and lotsa kids.
A blessed Easter season to you and yours.