Jesus Christ, died for all

[Josiah]

Are you saying that all humanity has been given the gift of faith, but only those who use it go to heaven?

I'm saying what I said.

Did Jesus purchase all humanity and then fail to bring his purchase home?

If your wife pours you a glass of wine, but you don't drink it, does that prove she actually never poured the wine? If I buy you a ticket for a first-class plane ticket to Hawaii and you never use it, do you get to Hawaii? If not, does that prove I never bought the ticket but lied to you? Your whole silly question simply depends on the premise that faith is irrelevant in justification (a common Calvinist problem). AND your epistemology is a complete repudiation of Sola Scriptura since you have NOT ONE VERSE that states that you do and SO MANY verbatim exactly the opposite, you simply have accepted an epistemology that if self asks a question and self answers it, God is mandated to agree with self.


We have given the Scriptures. They flat out, verbatim, clearly contradict this horrible invention of a few latter-day radical Calvinists - and that's obvious. And you have NOTHING, not one Scripture that states Jesus died NOT for all but for ONLY some. All you have is 1) A repudiation of Sola Gratia - Solus Christus - SOLA FIDE and 2) The insistence that your silly question - founded on your rejection of faith in justification - must be answered in a way accepted to you 3) The need to spin SO many, so very many, Scriptures so that they 'mean" the opposite ofwhat they say. Ah, by that rubic, every heresy and absurdity under the sun is true.


Can I answer every question that Pelagus or Arius or Jospeh Smith may have? Maybe not. But I can STATE what God does? And I have. I stand with Scripture. And with 1500 years of universal faith until a tiny few, latter-day, radical Calvinists invented this horrible opinion - and after 500 years, still can't fine ANY Scripture that states it and must "spin" SO, SO many Scriptures 180 degrees opposite of what they verbatim state. And left Calvinists with this horrible idea that they can have no clue as to whether they are saved. No wonder every Calvinist personally known to me has repudiated this horrible, so very unbiblical and unchristian theory. PERHAPS.... if you will but accept what Scripture says (rather than a tiny hand full of radical, latter-day Calvinists), accept Scripture rather than perpetually asking questions based on false premises.... maybe you'll be among them. I hope so. What God says is true.... regardless of what happens with your false questions based on false presumptions.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSAfmvRKIVU&t=265s




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[MennoSota]

I'm saying what I said.






If your wife pours you a glass of wine, but you don't drink it, does that prove she actually never poured the wine? If I buy you a ticket for a first-class plane ticket to Hawaii and you never use it, do you get to Hawaii? If not, does that prove I never bought the ticket but lied to you? Your whole silly question simply depends on the premise that faith is irrelevant in justification (a common Calvinist problem). AND your epistemology is a complete repudiation of Sola Scriptura since you have NOT ONE VERSE that states that you do and SO MANY verbatim exactly the opposite, you simply have accepted an epistemology that if self asks a question and self answers it, God is mandated to agree with self.


We have given the Scriptures. They flat out, verbatim, clearly contradict this horrible invention of a few latter-day radical Calvinists - and that's obvious. And you have NOTHING, not one Scripture that states Jesus died NOT for all but for ONLY some. All you have is 1) A repudiation of Sola Gratia - Solus Christus - SOLA FIDE and 2) The insistence that your silly question - founded on your rejection of faith in justification - must be answered in a way accepted to you 3) The need to spin SO many, so very many, Scriptures so that they 'mean" the opposite ofwhat they say. Ah, by that rubic, every heresy and absurdity under the sun is true.


Can I answer every question that Pelagus or Arius or Jospeh Smith may have? Maybe not. But I can STATE what God does? And I have. I stand with Scripture. And with 1500 years of universal faith until a tiny few, latter-day, radical Calvinists invented this horrible opinion - and after 500 years, still can't fine ANY Scripture that states it and must "spin" SO, SO many Scriptures 180 degrees opposite of what they verbatim state. And left Calvinists with this horrible idea that they can have no clue as to whether they are saved. No wonder every Calvinist personally known to me has repudiated this horrible, so very unbiblical and unchristian theory. PERHAPS.... if you will but accept what Scripture says (rather than a tiny hand full of radical, latter-day Calvinists), accept Scripture rather than perpetually asking questions based on false premises.... maybe you'll be among them. I hope so. What God says is true.... regardless of what happens with your false questions based on false presumptions.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSAfmvRKIVU&t=265s




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You are saying that humans must take the gift and use it or they go to hell. Their work saves them.
Funny how you said that it's either 100% Jesus who saves or it's 100% man, but you preach 50/50 as well. Jesus buys the ladder, but humans have the faith to climb out of the hole.
Thanks for clarifying.
For you, Jesus purchased everyone, but he leaves many behind because they didn't have the faith to walk out with him.
Of course, that view rejects John 6, John 10 and John 17. It ignores Romans 8 and 9. But, hey... congratulations on your semi-pelagian teaching.

 

[Josiah]

You are saying that humans must take the gift and use it or they go to hell.

You just made that up. We all KNOW I never remotely posted any such thing. Try reading the words I post. What I'm saying is what I said: Justification is Sola Gratia - Solus Christus - Sola Fide; that justification INCLUDED faith that applies the work of Christ to the individual; the Bible is correct when it notes that Christ died for all but faith is not present in all. I'm standing with the verbatim words of Scripture in MANY, MANY verses... with the Ecumenical Council of Orange.... with 1500 years of Christianity (and indeed, virtually all in the past 500 years, too).... and with the doctrine of Sola Gratia - Solus Christus - Sola Fide.


Here's the reality. The Bible - over and over and over and over again - specifically, boldly, clearly STATES that Jesus died for ALL. And for 1500 years, every Christian accepted and believed that, until a FEW latter-day radical Calvinists invented the horrible idea that that's not true and that Jesus died for ONLY some (and only God knows who those few are). You must either ignore ALL those MANY Scriptures that flat-out contradict this horrible invention or you must "spin" them 180 degrees so that they "mean" the exact opposite of what thost MANY Scriptures say. You have documented this - many times. And like all these radical Calvinists for nearly 500 years, you can't find even one verse that says what this horrible invention does. Not one. Nothing. You simply left with this contradiction of Scripture and solid, ecumenical faith and this repudiation of Sola Gratia - Solus Christus - SOLA FIDE, this repudiation of faith, this horror that no one can know if they are saved. No wonder this horrible invention has largely been repudiated by Calvinists, no wonder it is the LEAST accepted idea among Calvinists that those few later-day radical Calvinists invented.

Funny how you said that it's either 100% Jesus who saves or it's 100% man, but you preach 50/50 as well.

How pathetic. Come on, you are above such absurdity. EVERYONE here (including you) KNOWS I hold to no such position and you claim I "SAID" something everyone can see for themselves that I NEVER said. How pathetic. How desperate.






1. Biblical Christianity does not delete faith from justification. By eliminating the doctrine of Sola Gratia - Solus Christus - SOLA FIDE, you create a wrong premise. You insist that by embracing faith, we "contradict" you - and I guess you're right. Yes, Christ died for all.... yes, the divine gift of faith apprehends/embraces/trusts/relies in what Christ did and thus benefits from it (Romans 5:1-2, etc. etc.).... yes, not all have faith and thus not all benefit. Faith is the means whereby the gift is applied to the individual. Not all have faith, thus not all are justified. It's not the lack of Christ, it's the lack of faith.


2. Yes, many of us have given you a long, long, long list of Scriptures that teach this.... we've referred you to the Council of Orange.... we've used examples and illustrations.... but you insist on rejecting Sola Gratia - Solus Christus - Sola Fide as ONE inseparable united doctrine, you insist on eliminating faith from justification, you insist on parroting the modern tradition of one denomination and just ignoring all the Scriptures that teach the opposite. I'll try again: Your premise is silly and illogical, you ASSUME that is something doesn't benefit an individual, then it was never given. Let's say I GIVE you a Starbucks gift card. It's legit.... I paid for it.... it's real. It's not a fake, it's not a fraud, it's not a trick of a cruel and sick giver, it's not sick joke. Now, let's say you never use it. You don't rely on it. Do you benefit from it? No. Does that prove ergo it's a fraud, a fake, a sick and cruel joke? Does it prove I never paid for it but stole it? No. It only means you never used it and thus never benefited from it. Your whole premise is silly. And illogical. It's possible only because you eliminate faith. To keep my illustration, it would be mandated that if I gave you a card, at that moment COFFEE was poured from heaven and down your gullet and that there is no factor of using the card, trusting/relying/apprehending it. You just eliminate faith and thus destroy the Protestant position of Sola Gratia - Solus Christus - Sola Fide. Friend, historic orthodox Christianity holds that predestination/election impacts who receives the gift of faith - and thus who benefits from Christ's work. Extreme Calvinists, by eliminating faith in justification. must instead put it on Christ. This is flately unbiblical (and terrible!!!).


3. Read the following. And believe.

John 3:14-16

John 4:42

John 1:9

Acts 2:21

Romans 5: 1-2

1 John 2:2

2 Corinthians 5:14-15

1 Timothy 2:3-4

1 Timothy 4:10

2 Peter 3:9

1 John 4:4:14

Ephesians 2:8-9

Romans 3:28

Romans 9:30

Galatians 2:16

Philippians 3:9

Romans 3:22

Romans 3:26

Galatians 3:22

Galatians 3:24


4. See if you can be the first radical Calvinist to find a verse that states Christ died for ONLY a few.... "ONLY" being the dogma and thus the essential word. Be the first one EVER to quote the verse that states all the many Scriptures above are wrong and Jesus died for ONLY some. Don 't just ask false questions founded on false premises, but quote the verse. Be the first EVER to quote the verse that proves all the above Scriptures are wrong and for 1500 years every Christian was wrong and for the past 500 years, every non-Calvinist (and indeed most Calvinists) are wrong.






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[MennoSota]

You just made that up. We all KNOW I never remotely posted any such thing. Try reading the words I post. What I'm saying is what I said: Justification is Sola Gratia - Solus Christus - Sola Fide; that justification INCLUDED faith that applies the work of Christ to the individual; the Bible is correct when it notes that Christ died for all but faith is not present in all. I'm standing with the verbatim words of Scripture in MANY, MANY verses... with the Ecumenical Council of Orange.... with 1500 years of Christianity (and indeed, virtually all in the past 500 years, too).... and with the doctrine of Sola Gratia - Solus Christus - Sola Fide.


Here's the reality. The Bible - over and over and over and over again - specifically, boldly, clearly STATES that Jesus died for ALL. And for 1500 years, every Christian accepted and believed that, until a FEW latter-day radical Calvinists invented the horrible idea that that's not true and that Jesus died for ONLY some (and only God knows who those few are). You must either ignore ALL those MANY Scriptures that flat-out contradict this horrible invention or you must "spin" them 180 degrees so that they "mean" the exact opposite of what thost MANY Scriptures say. You have documented this - many times. And like all these radical Calvinists for nearly 500 years, you can't find even one verse that says what this horrible invention does. Not one. Nothing. You simply left with this contradiction of Scripture and solid, ecumenical faith and this repudiation of Sola Gratia - Solus Christus - SOLA FIDE, this repudiation of faith, this horror that no one can know if they are saved. No wonder this horrible invention has largely been repudiated by Calvinists, no wonder it is the LEAST accepted idea among Calvinists that those few later-day radical Calvinists invented.








How pathetic. Come on, you are above such absurdity. EVERYONE here (including you) KNOWS I hold to no such position and you claim I "SAID" something everyone can see for themselves that I NEVER said. How pathetic. How desperate.






1. Biblical Christianity does not delete faith from justification. By eliminating the doctrine of Sola Gratia - Solus Christus - SOLA FIDE, you create a wrong premise. You insist that by embracing faith, we "contradict" you - and I guess you're right. Yes, Christ died for all.... yes, the divine gift of faith apprehends/embraces/trusts/relies in what Christ did and thus benefits from it (Romans 5:1-2, etc. etc.).... yes, not all have faith and thus not all benefit. Faith is the means whereby the gift is applied to the individual. Not all have faith, thus not all are justified. It's not the lack of Christ, it's the lack of faith.


2. Yes, many of us have given you a long, long, long list of Scriptures that teach this.... we've referred you to the Council of Orange.... we've used examples and illustrations.... but you insist on rejecting Sola Gratia - Solus Christus - Sola Fide as ONE inseparable united doctrine, you insist on eliminating faith from justification, you insist on parroting the modern tradition of one denomination and just ignoring all the Scriptures that teach the opposite. I'll try again: Your premise is silly and illogical, you ASSUME that is something doesn't benefit an individual, then it was never given. Let's say I GIVE you a Starbucks gift card. It's legit.... I paid for it.... it's real. It's not a fake, it's not a fraud, it's not a trick of a cruel and sick giver, it's not sick joke. Now, let's say you never use it. You don't rely on it. Do you benefit from it? No. Does that prove ergo it's a fraud, a fake, a sick and cruel joke? Does it prove I never paid for it but stole it? No. It only means you never used it and thus never benefited from it. Your whole premise is silly. And illogical. It's possible only because you eliminate faith. To keep my illustration, it would be mandated that if I gave you a card, at that moment COFFEE was poured from heaven and down your gullet and that there is no factor of using the card, trusting/relying/apprehending it. You just eliminate faith and thus destroy the Protestant position of Sola Gratia - Solus Christus - Sola Fide. Friend, historic orthodox Christianity holds that predestination/election impacts who receives the gift of faith - and thus who benefits from Christ's work. Extreme Calvinists, by eliminating faith in justification. must instead put it on Christ. This is flately unbiblical (and terrible!!!).


3. Read the following. And believe.

John 3:14-16

John 4:42

John 1:9

Acts 2:21

Romans 5: 1-2

1 John 2:2

2 Corinthians 5:14-15

1 Timothy 2:3-4

1 Timothy 4:10

2 Peter 3:9

1 John 4:4:14

Ephesians 2:8-9

Romans 3:28

Romans 9:30

Galatians 2:16

Philippians 3:9

Romans 3:22

Romans 3:26

Galatians 3:22

Galatians 3:24


4. See if you can be the first radical Calvinist to find a verse that states Christ died for ONLY a few.... "ONLY" being the dogma and thus the essential word. Be the first one EVER to quote the verse that states all the many Scriptures above are wrong and Jesus died for ONLY some. Don 't just ask false questions founded on false premises, but quote the verse. Be the first EVER to quote the verse that proves all the above Scriptures are wrong and for 1500 years every Christian was wrong and for the past 500 years, every non-Calvinist (and indeed most Calvinists) are wrong.






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I never made anything up.
You created an analogy where God buys everyone a Starbucks card, but the person must use it to get the coffee.
The Starbucks card is faith, in your analogy.
Based on your analogy, you teach that God has purchased all humanity. He gives the gift of faith to everyone, but only those who use their faith will be saved. All persons who do not use their God-given faith will not be brought to heaven, but will perish.
Even though God bought them, God does not take them home. He throws them out. All because the individual person fails to use the faith that God pre-gifted to him.
Josiah.This is what you declared. Everyone can read it. You cannot backpedal on what you teach.
You teach semi-pelagian salvation. Jesus isn't 100% Savior. Humans must use the faith they have been given in order to be saved. Humans are 50% Savior and God is 50% Savior.
Get upset and throw a fit on CH, but that is EXACTLY what you teach. Own it and suck it up as yours because that is what you teach.
Semi-pelagian teaching is not Jesus is 100% Savior. You have made yourself a hypocrite and MC can easily identify it as well as any person here.

 

[YourTruthGod]

Jesus died for the whole world.

Calvinists have to change the meanings of words to make the scriptures say what they want it to say.

Now that is a dangerous mistake by the Calvinists.

Calvinists can't even give one scripture that says God saves unbelievers.

Why keep a false belief? Why don't they give up their false beliefs for God?

 

[YourTruthGod]

God does NOT save unbelievers. God does not quicken or regenerate unbelievers.

Read this scripture about regeneration:

Titus 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

The washing of regeneration...and the renewing of the Holy Spirit...that happens when we receive the Holy Spirit after we repent and are saved...we are WASHED, just as the scripture says. We are WASHED of our sins we repent of doing. We are washed when we are saved and that is when we receive the Holy Spirit.
No such scripture that says regeneration means we are caused to believe supernaturally with the Holy Spirit to then be able to believe and repent. NO such scripture.

 

[YourTruthGod]

We do not have life first (regenerated) with Christ before believing; we do not cross over to the body of Christ unless we believe.

John 5:24 "I tell you the truth, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be condemned; he has crossed over from death to life.

You insist that we are part of the body of Christ first, before we can believe...


However, I easily prove that belief wrong.

We are NOT a part of Christ UNTIL we are given the Holy Spirit.

1 Corinthians 12:12 Just as a body, though one, has many parts, but all its many parts form one body, so it is with Christ. 13 For we were all baptized by one Spirit so as to form one body—whether Jews or Gentiles, slave or free—and we were all given the one Spirit to drink.

...and, we do not get the Holy Spirit until after we believe first and repent of our sins.

 

[YourTruthGod]

1 Corinthians 15:2 By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.

Hebrews 10:23 Let us hold unswervingly to the hope we profess, for he who promised is faithful.

Romans 11:22
Consider therefore the kindness and sternness of God: sternness to those who fell, but kindness to you, provided that you continue in his kindness. Otherwise, you also will be cut off.


Nothing in those scriptures or any scripture that says what Luther and Calvin taught. Nowhere anywhere does scripture say God regenerated people with the Holy Spirit first insuring that they will believe and obey.

 

[YourTruthGod]

John 3:18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son.

Mark 16:16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.

John 1:12 Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God--

John 3:16 "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

John 5:24 "I tell you the truth, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be condemned; he has crossed over from death to life.

John 3:36 Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God's wrath remains on him."

John 8:24 I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am he, you will indeed die in your sins."


All those scripture are of Jesus saying to believe or be condemned.

Do you really want to keep teaching that Jesus taught that knowing no one can believe in him?

Jesus is NOT cruel and ironic.

 

[MennoSota]

Jesus died for the whole world.

Calvinists have to change the meanings of words to make the scriptures say what they want it to say.

Now that is a dangerous mistake by the Calvinists.

Calvinists can't even give one scripture that says God saves unbelievers.

Why keep a false belief? Why don't they give up their false beliefs for God?

God does NOT save unbelievers. God does not quicken or regenerate unbelievers.

Read this scripture about regeneration:

Titus 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

The washing of regeneration...and the renewing of the Holy Spirit...that happens when we receive the Holy Spirit after we repent and are saved...we are WASHED, just as the scripture says. We are WASHED of our sins we repent of doing. We are washed when we are saved and that is when we receive the Holy Spirit.
No such scripture that says regeneration means we are caused to believe supernaturally with the Holy Spirit to then be able to believe and repent. NO such scripture.

We do not have life first (regenerated) with Christ before believing; we do not cross over to the body of Christ unless we believe.

John 5:24 "I tell you the truth, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be condemned; he has crossed over from death to life.

You insist that we are part of the body of Christ first, before we can believe...


However, I easily prove that belief wrong.

We are NOT a part of Christ UNTIL we are given the Holy Spirit.

1 Corinthians 12:12 Just as a body, though one, has many parts, but all its many parts form one body, so it is with Christ. 13 For we were all baptized by one Spirit so as to form one body—whether Jews or Gentiles, slave or free—and we were all given the one Spirit to drink.

...and, we do not get the Holy Spirit until after we believe first and repent of our sins.

1 Corinthians 15:2 By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.

Hebrews 10:23 Let us hold unswervingly to the hope we profess, for he who promised is faithful.

Romans 11:22
Consider therefore the kindness and sternness of God: sternness to those who fell, but kindness to you, provided that you continue in his kindness. Otherwise, you also will be cut off.


Nothing in those scriptures or any scripture that says what Luther and Calvin taught. Nowhere anywhere does scripture say God regenerated people with the Holy Spirit first insuring that they will believe and obey.

Josiah, you should cringe when YTG is supporting your argument.

 

[YourTruthGod]

Hebrews 3:19 So we see that they were not able to enter, because of their unbelief.

Romans 11:23 And if they do not persist in unbelief, they will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again.

Hebrews 3:12 See to it, brothers, that none of you has a sinful, unbelieving heart that turns away from the living God.


Read those scriptures and tell me that it isn't creepy to read those and also believe that God knows they can't believe!

 

[YourTruthGod]

Romans 3:25 God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement, through the shedding of his blood--to be received by faith. He did this to demonstrate his righteousness, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished--

That scripture tells us that Jesus is a sacrifice of atonement---atonement for our sins---to be received BY FAITH.

Look at this scripture...

1 John 1:7 but if we walk in the Light as He Himself is in the Light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin.

Did you see that? We have to come to Him and believe and repent and then THE BLOOD OF JESUS CLEANSES US FROM ALL SIN.

That is the washing of regeneration. See Titus 3:5.

As the scriptures show, we come into the covenant of his blood by faith, and his blood washes us, his blood cleanses us from all sin that we repent of doing.

We aren’t regenerated by the Holy Spirit first and then given faith. We have faith first and then are regenerated.

 

[YourTruthGod]

Josiah, you should cringe when YTG is supporting your argument.

All you have are insults.

Give the scripture that says we are regenerated by the Holy Spirit before we believe and obey.

 

[YourTruthGod]

Ephesians 1:3 And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit,


Did you read that scripture?

When you believed you were marked in him and NOT BEFORE.

 

[YourTruthGod]

Go to Ephesians 2:11…Paul says for them to remember that formerly they were Gentiles by birth and called “uncircumcised”. Paul continues to tell them that they were without God in the world, but now in Christ they are brought near through the blood of Christ.
That means ALL have a chance to be reconciled to God, it does NOT mean no one had the ABILITY to believe before then. It means they were NOT ALLOWED to come to God before Jesus died on the cross because they were not in the covenant with God.

 

[MennoSota]

All you have are insults.

Give the scripture that says we are regenerated by the Holy Spirit before we believe and obey.

YTG, you have been proven wrong over and over again by scripture. I hand you over to your own.

 

[YourTruthGod]

John 5:21 For just as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, even so the Son gives life to whom he is pleased to give it.


What do you think? Do you think those who repent of their sins please Jesus more than those who do not? What do you think? Do you think Jesus knows no one can believe and obey but says what he says to be cruel to those who refuse to believe and obey?!

 

[MennoSota]

Go to Ephesians 2:11…Paul says for them to remember that formerly they were Gentiles by birth and called “uncircumcised”. Paul continues to tell them that they were without God in the world, but now in Christ they are brought near through the blood of Christ.
That means ALL have a chance to be reconciled to God, it does NOT mean no one had the ABILITY to believe before then. It means they were NOT ALLOWED to come to God before Jesus died on the cross because they were not in the covenant with God.

No. Your interpretation is utterly wrong. You are creating imaginary views that no one else holds.

 

[YourTruthGod]

YTG, you have been proven wrong over and over again by scripture. I hand you over to your own.

You can't defend your beliefs, otherwise you would read what I write and prove it it wrong.

 

[YourTruthGod]

Paul says they fell because they did not obey.

Paul brings together the old and new, the old and new that YOU TRY TO FOREVER SEPARATE.

What God has brought together---you tear apart.

Paul speaks about how the people IN THE OLD TESTAMENT TIMES are the same as US---people NEEDING TO BELIEVE AND OBEY God.

Paul brings people together through Jesus.

Paul brings together old and new, through Jesus.

Paul brings together believe and obeying and says NOTHING about God not causing some to believe and obey!!!

What you preach is falseness.

1 Corinthians 10 For I do not want you to be ignorant of the fact, brothers and sisters, that our ancestors were all under the cloud and that they all passed through the sea. 2 They were all baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea. 3 They all ate the same spiritual food 4 and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank from the spiritual rock that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ. 5 Nevertheless, God was not pleased with most of them; their bodies were scattered in the wilderness. 6 Now these things occurred as examples to keep us from setting our hearts on evil things as they did. 7Do not be idolaters, as some of them were; as it is written: “The people sat down to eat and drink and got up to indulge in revelry.” 8 We should not commit sexual immorality, as some of them did—and in one day twenty-three thousand of them died. 9 We should not test Christ, as some of them did—and were killed by snakes. 10And do not grumble, as some of them did—and were killed by the destroying angel.

11 These things happened to them as examples and were written down as warnings for us, on whom the culmination of the ages has come. 12 So, if you think you are standing firm, be careful that you don’t fall! 13 No temptation has overtaken you except what is common to mankind. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can endure it.