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MoreCoffee in Post #17 stated, regarding knm1113's quoting from the 1971 edition of the Encyclopaedia Britannica (Post #16):

Both posts contained new information for me. Assuming that MoreCoffee was actually asking if knm1113 was a Jehovah's Witness, I ask, with semi tongue in cheek:
  • Do Jehovah's Witnesses really use only “old” encyclopedias?
  • Do “old” encyclopedias contain inherently wrong information, or are they simply less politically correct?
  • If the information contained in “old” encyclopaedias is suspect because they are “old”, should we then, for consistency, reject the findings of church councils older than that 1971 edition of the Encyclopaedia Britannica?

Books and magazines from Jehovah's witnesses sources regularly quote that particular volume with ellipsis points in exactly the places shown in [MENTION=243]knm1113[/MENTION] 's quote. The possibility of the source being from a Watchtower magazine or a book from the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society seemed fairly high so I asked if [MENTION=243]knm1113[/MENTION] is one of Jehovah's witnesses.
 

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ok not real up on Jehovahs witnesses so good to know
 

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Well, actually I don't see how being a jehovahs witness is relevant to what I posted. You say "that particular volume", so are you insinuating that the other volumes are irrelevant to jehovahs witnesses; Or is the volume itself is not acurate since the witnessed use it? I did not actually get it out of any literature from the witnesses. I am not baptized member, however my beliefs do coorilate with jehovahs witnesses. ;)

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Well, actually I don't see how being a Jehovah's witness is relevant to what I posted. You say "that particular volume", so are you insinuating that the other volumes are irrelevant to Jehovah's witnesses; Or is the volume itself is not acurate since the witnessed use it? I did not actually get it out of any literature from the witnesses. I am not baptized member, however my beliefs do correlate with Jehovah's witnesses. ;)

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Thanks for saying that your point of view is drawn from the teachings of Jehovah's witnesses. Their teaching is not relevant to this thread insofar as their teaching is unorthodox. They reject the Holy Trinity in favour of a kind of Unitarianism with the Lord Jesus Christ as "a god" and the Holy Spirit as "Jehovah's active force" and the question raised in this thread is about the passage in Deuteronomy which says "Jehovah is our God, Jehovah alone" but this thread is not canvassing the teachings of Jehovah's witnesses - for that another thread in a different part of the forum would be needed since this part of the forum is for Christian teaching (specifically Christian teaching in harmony with the Nicene Creed). So we ought to return to the thread's topic in the context of orthodox Nicene Christian teaching.

But historically the teaching of the Christian Church about the holy Trinity predates emperor Constantine's birth by around 200 years so any implication that Constantine "invented" the teaching is absurd. Consider first the testimony of the holy scriptures in which we find
  • the Trinitarian formula for baptism (Matt 28:19-20 RSV)
  • an affirmation that Jesus is God (John 1:1, Titus 2:13, Romans 9:5, 2 Peter 1:1-2 RSV and more)
  • an affirmation of the Holy Spirit as God (Acts 5:3-4 RSV)
And second the testimony of the early Church fathers
  • Ignatius of Antioch, around 110 AD, exhorts his readers to offer their obedience to "Christ, and to the Father, and to the Spirit"
  • Justin Martyr (born around 100 AD died around 165 AD) also writes, "in the name of God, the Father and Lord of the universe, and of our Saviour Jesus Christ, and of the Holy Spirit" thus showing the connection between the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit in Christian teaching
  • Theophilus of Antioch writing in the late 2nd century AD defines the Trinity as God, His Word (Logos) and His Wisdom (Sophia) - see Apologia ad Autolycum, Book II, Chapter 15
The doctrine of the Trinity was defended in the early 3rd century AD by the early church writer Tertullian - see Against Praxeas

Once the heresy of Arius arose the responses of the Christian bishops and scholars is well documented in whole books devoted to the doctrine of the holy Trinity. And the first council of Nicea deals with the matter with the Nicene Creed.

So it is clear that Christians from the earliest times held views contrary to the teaching of Jehovah's witnesses today.
 
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