World Israel has resumed the war in Gaza. Why now?

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The ceasefire between Israel and Hamas, just two months old, has been shaky for some time. But that was thoroughly shattered by Israel’s bombardment of Gaza overnight. Why now?

Why did Israel return to war?​

The Israeli government has given different reasons.

Overnight, Israel’s defense minister Israel Katz said that the attacks were “due to Hamas’ refusal to release the hostages and threats to harm IDF soldiers and Israeli communities.” If that sounds like the same reason Israel has given for attacking Gaza since October 7, 2023, that’s because it is. Israel’s war goals in Gaza are to return the remaining hostages taken by Hamas and destroy Hamas’ governing and military capabilities.
 

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Hamas decided it had had enough time to reorganize and rearm and violated the cease fire agreement to continue its war of hatred against Israel.

It is now paying the price.

Decisions have consequences.
 

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My impression is that Israel wanted to change the terms of the ceasefire agreement and Hamas refused.
 

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I think the basic problem is that both Palestinians and Israelis (at least the ultra orthodox) both claim the whole of Palestine "from the river to the sea". So as well as devastating Gaza, the Settlers on the West Bank (aided by the IDF) are driving out villagers from the West Bank and taking over their land.

What Hamas did on Oct 7th was horrible and brutal, - but so is what Israel is doing in Gaza (and on the West Bank).
 

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I think the basic problem is that both Palestinians and Israelis (at least the ultra orthodox) both claim the whole of Palestine "from the river to the sea". So as well as devastating Gaza, the Settlers on the West Bank (aided by the IDF) are driving out villagers from the West Bank and taking over their land.

What Hamas did on Oct 7th was horrible and brutal, - but so is what Israel is doing in Gaza (and on the West Bank).
You conflate Hamas, Hezbollah and Israel?

As a Christian, I ask you who the land was given to by God as the promised land, Israel or the "Palestinians"?

The Diaspora is coming to its end, God is restoring the land given to Israel to the people of Israel, know the times and know which side you are on as things progress toward his purposes.
 

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You conflate Hamas, Hezbollah and Israel?

No I don't And I didn't mention Hezbollah
As a Christian, I ask you who the land was given to by God as the promised land, Israel or the "Palestinians"?

And who rejected God and lost their land as a result?
The Diaspora is coming to its end, God is restoring the land given to Israel to the people of Israel, know the times and know which side you are on as things progress toward his purposes.
In your opinion.
 

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No I don't And I didn't mention Hezbollah


And who rejected God and lost their land as a result?

In your opinion.
If you're talking about the West Bank, you're talking about Hezbollah. There are other terrorist organizations involved there as well but Hezbollah is the real overall power IMO.

True that Israel was scattered throughout the world as a result of its unrighteousness, but the land was never given to others and God has called them back to it as was prophecied.

Any 'opinion' I have is what is written in the Bible, and that is what I see happening in our current time (no Biblical reference to this happening more than once and the diaspora being repeated again, and that is the current situation we see being played out in the ME).

Do you disagree with this, and if you do what do you see happening instead and how do you explain it in relation to the Bible?
 

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If you're talking about the West Bank, you're talking about Hezbollah. There are other terrorist organizations involved there as well but Hezbollah is the real overall power IMO.
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Hezbollah operates in Lebanon on the northern border of Israel not in the West Bank
True that Israel was scattered throughout the world as a result of its unrighteousness, but the land was never given to others and God has called them back to it as was prophesied.

They rejected Jesus and have not changed from that rejection. They forfeited their land.

Any 'opinion' I have is what is written in the Bible, and that is what I see happening in our current time (no Biblical reference to this happening more than once and the diaspora being repeated again, and that is the current situation we see being played out in the ME).

Do you disagree with this, and if you do what do you see happening instead and how do you explain it in relation to the Bible?

Nothing in the Bible gives Israel the right to kill women and children and bomb hospitals and refugee camps. What they are doing is not of God.
 

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Hezbollah operates in Lebanon on the northern border of Israel not in the West Bank


They rejected Jesus and have not changed from that rejection. They forfeited their land.



Nothing in the Bible gives Israel the right to kill women and children and bomb hospitals and refugee camps. What they are doing is not of God.
I think you need to verify your sources on Hezbollah. They are very active there along with several other Islamic terrorist groups.

I suspect you may be among those that just don't like Jews and will interpret or reinterpret anything and everything in the Bible so match that belief. Of course, if you wish to present scripture stating that they lost their land for rejection of Jesus, do so. Abraham and his decedents was promised the land of Canaan, but I suppose you can provide scripture indicating God reneged on that promise?

I still hold that the Nation of Israel is being restored to the land that God promised would belong to Abraham's descendants, this has not happened in any time prior to this.

While there will be much strife and suffering as this occurs, both for Israel and all others that become involved, in the end Israel and the remnant of Christianity that stands with it till the end will still stand and its enemies will not.
 

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I suspect you may be among those that just don't like Jews and will interpret or reinterpret anything and everything in the Bible so match that belief.
A despicable smear.
I shall not join you in the gutter.
Goodbye
 

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The reality is... though, per God's Word, that as written in 1 Kings 11 God promised He would always leave one tribe at the city of Jerusalem for king David's and Jerusalem's sake. That's not all of the promised land though.

God's promise to Abraham about inheriting the land, means the old Israelite kingdom borders being restored 'in final' when Lord Jesus Christ returns. That is not... for today's time. The nation of Israel in 1948 was created again by the United Nations, through U.N. Charter vote of the nations. And they control Israel's borders today.

And according to Apostle Paul in Romans 11, God has put the "spirit of stupor" upon the majority of Paul's brethren the Jews, away from The Gospel, and that is why the Orthodox Jews still reject Jesus of Nazareth as The Christ-Messiah. And it is why God is going to send them "strong delusion" at the end of this world with the coming false-Messiah/Antichrist that comes to Jerusalem first.

So I am totally against any idea of the sons of Ishmael attacking and driving the Jews out of today's state of Israel. But I am not ignorant of what God has said He will do there in Jerusalem for the end of this world by sending those unbelieving Jews the "strong delusion" of 2 Thess.2 with that coming false-Messiah.

IMPORTANT:
One of the main reasons the Orthodox Jews have wanted to return and re-establish their old dwelling places is so they can re-establish old covenant style worship at Jerusalem. They do not accept Lord Jesus as Messiah, so they are still expecting Messiah's coming today, and thus believe they are still under the old covenant. And I am amazed at how so many of my Christian brethren forget about this, or don't want to think about it. Today's Orthodox Jews in Jerusalem already have the materials ready to build their 3rd temple in the holy land, and startup old covenant sacrifices and temple worship again. They even already have the cornerstone cut for the new temple, and have already been doing Passover sacrifices on a hill overlooking the Temple Mount.

Another major sign of the times today, is how some Islamic religious clerics have admitted that the Jews have always had their temple worship in Jerusalem. So those Islamic clerics are not... against the orthodox Jews building their 3rd temple in Jerusalem. The question that remain is where... exactly would they build it?
 
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