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Ought humility about our own cleverness and humility about human abilities ought to guide us in theology? Saint Augustine observed "I see the depth I cannot reach the bottom". He meant that he could see the deep complexity of an issue but was unable to reach the necessary depth of understanding to know the answer. In other words there are many mysteries in Christianity that no amount of cleverness will solve. Do you agree or can all questions be answered if sufficient prayer, meditation, and wisdom is sought?
 

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God can answer anything but some things are not for us to know
 

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God can answer anything but some things are not for us to know

If God hasn't said it in the bible will he say it now; in other words do you think that God will reveal what isn't known now so that we can answer a question?
 

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A question, when was Daniel the book opened up? Do you believe that God speaks today? If not then this discussion just ended.
 

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Everything we need to know to have salvation God has given to us in the scriptures. Anything else just isn't important.
 

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Finite looking into infinity... will always have a long way to go.
 

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A question, when was Daniel the book opened up? Do you believe that God speaks today? If not then this discussion just ended.

Daniel was opened when the Lord spoke of it.
 
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Ought humility about our own cleverness and humility about human abilities ought to guide us in theology? Saint Augustine observed "I see the depth I cannot reach the bottom". He meant that he could see the deep complexity of an issue but was unable to reach the necessary depth of understanding to know the answer. In other words there are many mysteries in Christianity that no amount of cleverness will solve. Do you agree or can all questions be answered if sufficient prayer, meditation, and wisdom is sought?


Yes. It's one of the reasons I left the RCC. It long, long, long ago lost all sense of humility and mystery.... as it fell in love with the reflection it itself saw in a pool of water..... falling in love with its own head, its own invented theories, even mandating that God agree with it itself. The DOGMAS of Transubstantiation, Purgatory, etc, etc. (you know, the very dogmas that are distinctive to the RC Denomination) are all proof. In the words of my Greek Orthodox friend, "The Roman Church just cannot shut up but insists on dogmatizing its own unique theories."


A blessed Easter to you and yours.


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Daniel was opened what the Lord spoke of it.
Avoidance once again, Daniel was not really understood till the late 1800's. God still speaks and He still reveals today, ours is not a dead religion
 

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Avoidance once again, Daniel was not really understood till the late 1800's. God still speaks and He still reveals today, ours is not a dead religion

I meant to say Daniel was opened when the Lord spoke of it.
 

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The scroll was not opened... even Daniel was told it will be closed until the end.
Daniel 12:9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.
 

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The scroll was not opened... even Daniel was told it will be closed until the end.
Daniel 12:9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.


The book of Daniel was explained by the Lord Jesus Christ in sufficient detail to open it to the understanding of the apostles. If you want to pretend that the apostles of the Lord were ignorant of the meaning of Daniel's words and you are not then you have to make your case far better than by merely stating without proof that the book is still closed or was only recently opened.
 

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What scroll is opened in Revelation.. is it not the closed scroll of Daniel.
 

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The scroll in Daniel 12 appears to be the same scroll that is in view in the book of Revelation. Turn to Daniel 12:4-9. Daniel is told that the words of the book are shut up and sealed until the time of the end.

Then we see a man clothed in linen standing above the waters of the stream. He raises his right hand and left hand toward heaven and makes an oath that it will be a time, times, and half a time when “all these things would be finished.” Daniel does not understand and it is repeated to him that the words are shut up and sealed until the time of the end.

Now look at Revelation 10:5-7 and notice the image is the same. The angel is standing on the sea, just like the angel in Daniel 12. The angel in Revelation raises his right hand and makes another oath, just as he did in Daniel 12. This time the angel gives an oath that there will no longer be a delay when all these things would be fulfilled.

The angel in Daniel said that there would be a delay. Now, the angel in Revelation says that there will no longer be a delay.

To show the connection further, this information in Revelation 10 comes after the seventh seal is opened on the scroll. The seventh seal reveals seven trumpets that are about to sound. The angel in Revelation 10:7 says that when the seventh trumpet from the seventh seal sounds, all of these things are accomplished concerning the mystery of God. The mystery of God, that is, the things previously sealed by God, would now be revealed and fulfilled.
 

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Think about this... if Revelation is not “unveiling” the sealed scroll of Daniel, then what is the book of Revelation unveiling? Further, if Daniel’s prophecy that was sealed “until the time of the end” was not revealed to John in the book of Revelation, then Daniel’s scroll was never unveiled in the days of the Messiah.
 

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No I don't think all questions can be answered in this life. Our finite brainscannot comprehend some things

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