Healing in the atonement?

[psalms 91]

Every good gift and all graces come from God so all healing and all good things are his gifts yet they are not a special sign that the faithful alone enjoy, all people receive healing mercies from God and the ministrations of doctors work equally for sinner and saint. The atonement is effective for the faithful who endure in faith until the end it is not effective for the wicked so if healing were in the atonement then either the wicked would not heal when sick or wounded or the faithful would never get sick or be wounded. Experience shown that neither of this things is true. Both the faithful and the wicked can be wounded and both fall ill. So the claim that physical healing is in the atonement is shown by experience and by holy scripture to be incorrect.

Then where do you say healing is? As we know that God still heals today

 

[Hammster]

People get healed of all sorts of maladies today. And they did so before the atonement. And some are believers. Most are not. So the Isaiah passage is obviously not about physical healing.


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[MoreCoffee]

Then where do you say healing is? As we know that God still heals today

Absolute and final healing is in the resurrection of the just.

Earthly healing is in the grace and mercy of God.

Prayer can be effective in healing as the holy scriptures say.

 

[psalms 91]

And so it is. Many miracles still take place today.

 

[MoreCoffee]

And so it is. Many miracles still take place today.

So if healing is in the atonement because many miracles take place today then why did I have a cold last week?

 

[tango]

And so it is. Many miracles still take place today.

Not many people are disputing that. But the existence of miracles is a far cry from the universal supply of miracles on demand.

If it is always God's will to heal why are some people not healed? Why do we get sick at all? If God was going to heal everybody on demand, wouldn't it make more sense to simply eradicate sickness among his people? Otherwise it makes God look like some kind of bimbling half-wit who needs to be prodded and cajoled before giving a "ah, sorry, I'll get right on it" kind of response.

 

[MoreCoffee]

Not many people are disputing that. But the existence of miracles is a far cry from the universal supply of miracles on demand.

If it is always God's will to heal why are some people not healed? Why do we get sick at all? If God was going to heal everybody on demand, wouldn't it make more sense to simply eradicate sickness among his people? Otherwise it makes God look like some kind of bumbling half-wit who needs to be prodded and cajoled before giving a "ah, sorry, I'll get right on it" kind of response.

I think that there's a high degree of irrationality in the theology that teaches physical healing in this life is inherently included in the atonement. Mind you, I also think that much of Charismatic teaching is fundamentally irrational.