Have you ever heard the Gospel?

[1689Dave]

The gospel has a long history of development. You might say God first preached it when telling the serpent He will put enmity between your seed and the woman’s seed Genesis 3:15. This good news gave hope that things would improve after the fall.

Later in His promise to Abraham about blessing the whole world in him. This came true when God removed unbelievers from Israel and grafted believing gentiles in their place. Now unfolding to find completion in the New Heavens and Earth. The only world (kosmos) where Christ died for all, to secure its inhabitants in his likeness for eternity.

Then as Daniel the prophet said, Jesus began preaching the gospel of the kingdom in the times of the ancient Roman Empire. An everlasting kingdom only the saved can see and become part of. In Acts two Peter preached the gospel of this kingdom while adding the gospel of salvation in Christ to it. Paul did the same wherever he taught.

But today we don’t hear mention of the kingdom as part of the gospel. We might hear about the Pharisee's Millennial Kingdom, denied by Jesus in the gospels. But never the Kingdom gospel Jesus preached. If we were to hear the Gospel the early church heard, it would include the Gospel of the kingdom that Jesus preached. Combined with the gospel of salvation Peter and Paul preached.

“And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.” Matthew 24:14 (KJV 1900)

 

[Lamb]

The truth of the Gospel is that Jesus died for the sins of the world. Those who believe will have eternal life.

 

[1689Dave]

The truth of the Gospel is that Jesus died for the sins of the world. Those who believe will have eternal life.

But the main part is missing. “And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.” Matthew 24:14 (KJV 1900)

 

[1689Dave]

The truth of the Gospel is that Jesus died for the sins of the world. Those who believe will have eternal life.

Paul teaches:

“For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:” 1 Corinthians 15:3–4 (KJV 1900)

Notice he is telling us believers that Christ died for OUR sins.

 

[Lamb]

Paul teaches:

“For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:” 1 Corinthians 15:3–4 (KJV 1900)

Notice he is telling us believers that Christ died for OUR sins.

Notice that NONE of Paul's letters were written to the non-believers...so the point you think you're making, doesn't make sense.

 

[1689Dave]

Notice that NONE of Paul's letters were written to the non-believers...so the point you think you're making, doesn't make sense.

It is addressed to believers. Not to unbelievers who God did not give to Christ to redeem. Our Sins, not theirs.

 

[Lamb]

It is addressed to believers. Not to unbelievers who God did not give to Christ to redeem. Our Sins, not theirs.

Show us the letter where Paul wrote to the non-believers. I'll wait.

 

[1689Dave]

Show us the letter where Paul wrote to the non-believers. I'll wait.

I didn't say that. I said Paul in the gospel says Jesus died for our sins. Not for nonbelievers' sins.

 

[Lamb]

I didn't say that. I said Paul in the gospel says Jesus died for our sins. Not for nonbelievers' sins.

So you admit that you don't know what he said to nonbelievers?

 

[1689Dave]

So you admit that you don't know what he said to nonbelievers?

I know he was not speaking to unbelievers when he said "our sins".

 

[Lamb]

I know he was not speaking to unbelievers when he said "our sins".

But you admit that you don't know what he said to nonbelievers since his letters weren't written to them.

 

[1689Dave]

But you admit that you don't know what he said to nonbelievers since his letters weren't written to them.

Surprise me, tell me what I'm missing.

 

[Lamb]

Surprise me, tell me what I'm missing.

I'm waiting for YOU to provide the proof that I requested in this thread.

 

[1689Dave]

I'm waiting for YOU to provide the proof that I requested in this thread.

I'm not aware of Paul saying anything that agrees with you. Fill me in if you have anything.

 

[Lamb]

I'm not aware of Paul saying anything that agrees with you. Fill me in if you have anything.

You claimed that "Paul teaches" what you think is correct, except that the proof you think you provided doesn't even go to the nonbelievers. So you haven't proven anything.

 

[1689Dave]

You claimed that "Paul teaches" what you think is correct, except that the proof you think you provided doesn't even go to the nonbelievers. So you haven't proven anything.

Can you furnish examples of what you are saying? I still don't understand any point you are trying to make.

 

[Lamb]

Can you furnish examples of what you are saying? I still don't understand any point you are trying to make.

Oh, it's not upon me. YOU never have proven your point in any of these threads. AND when you do try to prove it, it fails miserably.

 

[1689Dave]

Oh, it's not upon me. YOU never have proven your point in any of these threads. AND when you do try to prove it, it fails miserably.

You have no scripture to support your claims. They are all interpretations of scripture.

 

[Jason76]

I love the gospel, but I think the right approach is to show the love of God. Make people fall in love with God. One starting place for this is the gospels, for instance, the parable of the Good Samaritan and Prodigal Son.

 

[1689Dave]

I love the gospel, but I think the right approach is to show the love of God. Make people fall in love with God. One starting place for this is the gospels, for instance, the parable of the Good Samaritan and Prodigal Son.

What about when Jesus and John called the Pharisees snakes?