Hail, full of grace ...

[MoreCoffee]

Yes, but it is good to recognize what grace means and also what "Hail" means! It simply means, "Hello!"

Grace is a gift from God given because he wishes to give it and not because it was earned. Some, such as Jehovah's witnesses, say it means "undeserved kindness" but that is because their concept of grace is limited and very few of them know what it is by stidy or experience.

 

[Full O Beans]

Grace is a gift from God given because he wishes to give it and not because it was earned. Some, such as Jehovah's witnesses, say it means "undeserved kindness" but that is because their concept of grace is limited and very few of them know what it is by stidy or experience.

I know and experience God's great grace every day. It is His unmerited favour. God pours it out on His own children liberally.

 

[MoreCoffee]

I know and experience God's great grace every day. It is His unmerited favour. God pours it out on His own children liberally.

If it were merely "unmerited favour" as you suggest that it is then there would be no proper word for graces received that are gifts and abilities as well as things created and uncreated for God gave himself as a grace and salvation is a grace received from God and so too is eternal life and there things need better words than "unmerited favour" for even though they are not earned and no behaviour can merit them as a wage or a payment they are richer than the words "unmerited favour" imply.

 

[Full O Beans]

If it were merely "unmerited favour" as you suggest that it is then there would be no proper word for graces received that are gifts and abilities as well as things created and uncreated for God gave himself as a grace and salvation is a grace received from God and so too is eternal life and there things need better words than "unmerited favour" for even though they are not earned and no behaviour can merit them as a wage or a payment they are richer than the words "unmerited favour" imply.

Well, then, you will have to make an adjustment in your thinking, because God's grace is indeed His unmerited favour.

 

[MoreCoffee]

Wikipedia says "In Western Christian theology, grace has been defined, not as a created substance of any kind, but as "the love and mercy given to us by God because God desires us to have it, not because of anything we have done to earn it", "the condescension or benevolence shown by God toward the human race"."

 

[Full O Beans]

Wiki knows all, eh?

 

[Brighten04]

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That would be nice if it worked.

 

[MoreCoffee]

GRACE is the free and undeserved gift that God gives us to respond to our calling to become his adopted children. As sanctifying grace, God shares his divine life and friendship with us in a constant and continuing gift which is a stable and supernatural disposition that enables the soul to live with God and to act by his love. As specific graces it is what God gives us to help us to conform our lives to his will. Sacramental graces and special graces are gifts given to us by the Holy Spirit to help us live out our Christian calling.

 

[MoreCoffee]

That would be nice if it worked.

God be praised, you've returned.