God doesn't want puppets but does he want slaves?

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The actual verse was posted because everyone kept making references to it (like don't they wear an ear ring, or they chose to be a slave) but nobody ever bothered to quote the actual verse in the bible that talks about it. I really don't understand how anyone can have post after post in topic after topic in a section called Christian Theology (theoretically, the study of the Christian God) and not a bible verse to be found in any of the conversations.

I offered a verse without commentary to balance all of the commentary without verses. :)

Some posts presented scripture quotation as part of the discussion ... for example Post #15
 

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Why has not this piece been offered up for part of the discussion Don’t you know that when you offer yourselves to someone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one you obey—whether you are slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to obedience, which leads to righteousness? That's in Romans 6:16
 

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Paul refers to himself as "the slave [or servant] of Christ" many times in his letters yet his reference to himself and others as "servant of God" (or of the gospel etcetera) in no way abrogates his status as a son of God created in Christ Jesus for the purpose of doing good works.
A slave or servant of Christ, is a term to apply to the service given to others. The disciples knew they were to be leaders and as such were vying for positions in the kingdom but Christ set them as slaves/servants to be the rightful position for whosoever is to share in His status as Son.
Matthew 20:27
And whoever wants to be first among you shall be your slave;
The idea of slavery to God is also presented as an alternative to slavery to sin and unrighteousness. Being servants of God and not of the flesh is one more way that the idea of service and slavery is presented.
The terms used to put forth ideas have different connotations when they are used in terms of slave/free, male/female etc that is very distinguishable even in the Greek depending on how one views the speaker, whether it be Son or slave. The son speaks freely the slave does not.
Yet these things speak more of what the faithful do in this world than of their status in relationship with Christ and God. The faithful are the children of God as the holy scriptures say but the children are no different from slaves while they are children with this one exception the children inherit and are always in the house while slaves are not inheritors and do not always remain.
In terms of faithful and unfaithful or children and slaves, consider that Jesus says it's the foreigners that pay the taxes and not the sons, nontheless He sent Peter to retrieve the coin from the fish's mouth so as not to offend.
Consider the language applied to Moses and the faithful by Paul when he writes
Therefore, brothers and sisters, holy partners in a heavenly calling, consider that Jesus, the apostle and high priest of our confession, was faithful to the one who appointed him, just as Moses also 'was faithful in all God's house.' Yet Jesus is worthy of more glory than Moses, just as the builder of a house has more honour than the house itself. (For every house is built by someone, but the builder of all things is God.) Now Moses was faithful in all God's house as a servant, to testify to the things that would be spoken later. Christ, however, was faithful over God's house as a son, and we are his house if we hold firm the confidence and the boldness that belong to hope.
Heb 3:1-6
As a servant Moses did not enter the promised land because only those who are of the sonship are of the family, thru faith of course, but not any less thru confidence and boldness that belongs to the hope that is therein
 
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