Enoch and Elijah

[Faith]

What’s LCMS?
Seems to me that they’re in heaven.
Floating in space seems pretty boring.

Where is heaven?

 

[NathanH83]

Where is heaven?

It’s right through that door that John walked through.

 

[Faith]

No, if you’re going to answer, be direct and stop playing games.

 

[Faith]

Where is it? In outer space? Another dimension? Where?

 

[NathanH83]

Where is it? In outer space? Another dimension? Where?

Read the Bible.

 

[Faith]

Read the Bible.

I have. Answer my question,

 

[NathanH83]

I have. Answer my question,

The Bible is the only answer I got.

In my opinion, Heaven is in a whole different dimension. Asking where it is, that is assuming it’s within our dimension.

 

[Faith]

The Bible is the only answer I got.

In my opinion, Heaven is in a whole different dimension. Asking where it is, that is assuming it’s within our dimension.

Not necessarily.

 

[Faith]

The Bible is the only answer I got.

In my opinion, Heaven is in a whole different dimension. Asking where it is, that is assuming it’s within our dimension.

Where does the Bible say heaven is?

 

[NathanH83]

Where does the Bible say heaven is?

Read it

 

[Faith]

Read it

I do. Now, again, where does it tell us where heaven is? Or don’t you know either?

 

[Faith]

I do. Now, again, where does it tell us where heaven is? Or don’t you know either?

Well?

 

[Andrew]

Well?

3 heavens

1rst. Sky
2nd. Space
3rd. Throne of God

The 3rd heaven is Heaven (capital H), its not located in space/universe (thats the 2nd heaven)

 

[Faith]

3 heavens

1rst. Sky
2nd. Space
3rd. Throne of God

The 3rd heaven is Heaven (capital H), its not located in space/universe (thats the 2nd heaven)

So, again, where is it? I would say it’s a spiritual realm, but Enoch and Elijah are supposed to be there.

 

[Andrew]

So, again, where is it? I would say it’s a spiritual realm, but Enoch and Elijah are supposed to be there.

Jesus ascended in a physical body, not a spiritual one

 

[Faith]

Jesus ascended in a physical body, not a spiritual one

Yes, but He was glorified and is God. Enoch and Elijah aren’t.

 

[Andrew]

Yes, but He was glorified and is God. Enoch and Elijah aren’t.

Well Elijah was incarnated as John the Baptist who himself did not even perceive he was Elijah, and John died (Jesus confirms that John is Elijah) HOWEVER Elijah appeared along side Moses at the transfiguration.

Jesus had the supernatural ability (in his glorified body) to appear and vanish at will (just like the Angels) and transcend just as God could speak to Moses on Earth while also in Heaven, omnipresence, I am sure that just as Elijah was taken up to the 2nd heaven and died on earth as John, Jesus who took captivity captive has him along with Moses etc in Heaven with him. Enoch who knows?

Short answer, its a mystery and it belongs to God alone, there will be a new Heaven and New Earth, I would note that John of patmos was also taken up in spirit and saw the past and present and future all at once (so was Paul taken up but unfamiliar with whether he was in the body or not) .. our tiny brains can not understand these things but just know that Heaven as we imagine it will actually be far greater than we could possibly imagine!!

 

[Faith]

Well Elijah was incarnated as John the Baptist who himself did not even perceive he was Elijah, and John died (Jesus confirms that John is Elijah)

I never heard that, though I’m not well versed in the Bible. Have you got the Scripture for me that supports this?

 

[Andrew]

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[Faith]

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What? Where did you read that Elijah was incarnated into John the Baptist?