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We're finding out that more and more people are sexual predators in Hollywood and some are pedophiles. It's time to drain the Hollywood Swamp and get rid of those sickos. Don't hire them. Don't watch their movies. Don't support their sin.
 

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Oh please! This sort of over reaction will not rid theworld of sexual predators or any other sort of sinful behaviour.

If you wish to punish the sexual predators then at least be specific. Do not punish ALL of Hollywood or the moviemaking world for the sins of the few, and yes relatively these sex fiends are only a small part of the industry. Please notice that all of the women who have made complaint about Harvey Weinstein work in the same industry, and boycotting the industry hurts them too!

So why not start a campaign to find and bring to justice the sinners specifically and then clean up the industry, one evil man at a time.

And if you want to boycott a complete industry why not focus on that one which makes more dollars than Hollywood and the drug cartels put together, the American Porn industry?


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I do not think that "drain the swamp" is much of a slogan. Apple had a TV commercial in the 1990s or maybe the 1980s about draining a swamp in Australia. It was a good commercial. But the slogan used in Donald's election campaign was a lie and I suspect that nobody intends to drain any wickedness from any political or legal system. Hollywood will be what it is and "drain the swamp" will do nothing useful.
 

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Oh please! This sort of over reaction will not rid theworld of sexual predators or any other sort of sinful behaviour.

If you wish to punish the sexual predators then at least be specific. Do not punish ALL of Hollywood or the moviemaking world for the sins of the few, and yes relatively these sex fiends are only a small part of the industry. Please notice that all of the women who have made complaint about Harvey Weinstein work in the same industry, and boycotting the industry hurts them too!

So why not start a campaign to find and bring to justice the sinners specifically and then clean up the industry, one evil man at a time.

And if you want to boycott a complete industry why not focus on that one which makes more dollars than Hollywood and the drug cartels put together, the American Porn industry?


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I did not say ban all of Hollywood. I think you misunderstood the intention of my post.
 

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I did not say ban all of Hollywood. I think you misunderstood the intention of my post.

Okay, perhaps you could elaborate upon which movies, etc you think we should boycott?


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Okay, perhaps you could elaborate upon which movies, etc you think we should boycott?


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The ones produced or directed by perverts would be a start? Or the ones that star pedophiles. It would give a message to Hollywood for sure.
 

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The ones produced or directed by perverts would be a start? Or the ones that star pedophiles. It would give a message to Hollywood for sure.

And how do you propose identifying these folks? As I understand guilt still has to be proven, an accusation is not enough, we are not God so we are fallable. Take care how you exercise your judgement, you may recall our Lord counselled care when judging others, even peadophiles and perverts.


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And how do you propose identifying these folks? As I understand guilt still has to be proven, an accusation is not enough, we are not God so we are fallable. Take care how you exercise your judgement, you may recall our Lord counselled care when judging others, even peadophiles and perverts.


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I heard Kevin Spacey is a weirdo..Netflix cancelled House Of Cards
 

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I heard Kevin Spacey is a weirdo..Netflix cancelled House Of Cards

The English "House of Cards" along with "To play the King" and "the final cut" from the 1990s was way better anyway :)

 

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I heard Kevin Spacey is a weirdo..
I was under the impression that this had been the verdict for years, just like the fact that he's gay. Yet, he supposedly just came out as homosexual in the last few days, as though that's supposed to be a solid defense against the charge of child molestation.
 

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We're finding out that more and more people are sexual predators in Hollywood and some are pedophiles. It's time to drain the Hollywood Swamp and get rid of those sickos. Don't hire them. Don't watch their movies. Don't support their sin.

I watch maybe one or two movies in the theater at the most these days, so their income isn't based off of profits from me. The movies themselves seem more and more dark and violent these days. I guess it is a sign of the times we live in.
 

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We're finding out that more and more people are sexual predators in Hollywood and some are pedophiles. It's time to drain the Hollywood Swamp and get rid of those sickos. Don't hire them. Don't watch their movies. Don't support their sin.


I have "mixed" feelings here, to be overly honest.....


ON THE ONE HAND, I think it has probably ALWAYS and EVERYWHERE been the case where the powerful have abused the powerless (or less powerful). This happens with sex and everything else for that matter. And yes, groups that oft times are in a less powerful position (women, children, the unborn, the poor, people of color, employees) tend to be victims in disproportionate numbers. I think this is horrible and disgusting. And I think it is the call of all of us (perhaps especially people like ME who are mostly in the "more powerful" category) need to speak up for those who cannot speak for themselves (God told us to do that, btw). We are to be instruments of justice.


ON THE OTHER HAND, I'm left scratching my head just a bit when this comes up DECADES after the "act" and tends to be highly selective. And then, from out of nowhere, there jump in dozens more who suddenly - out of the blue - yell "ME, TOO!" Yes..... I understand the weak and powerless are disenfranchized and often fear reporting (I get it), but it creates a very difficult situation. There is a "guilty until you PROVE yourself innocent" legal milieu created by this..... there is a "guilty by the number of accusers" legal milieu here. And since these often happen privately and DECADES ago, it can be impossible for the suddenly accused to PROVE their innocence..... and even if the accused does, he/she has already been condemned (and likely fired or no longer able to work). I'm not sure I know the answer to this, only that I see a problem.


As a result of the RCC's mishandling of sick, terrorist, disgusting agents - MUCH has been done to make SEXUAL issues less common. It brought THAT aspect of abuse into the light (something GOOD has resulted from that horrible chapter). When I started working for my company, a WHOLE LOT of time was spend telling us newbies about sexual abuse issues and the MANY policies now in place. I'm sure it's the same in every company. I remember all the changes in the BSA when all that Catholic Church stuff started to come to light. I know a guy who works in children's theatre - and they have camaras EVERYWHERE, on all the time - to "keep everyone honest" and also so that an accused person will have something objective that might reveal his/her innocence. I suspect ALL of us are going to have cameras in our offices and everywhere, 24/7, pretty soon.... But what I'm missing is why just sex? Why not the cry about the 1.2 MILLION innocent preborn babies horribly, PAINFULLY, murdered every year just in the USA? What about all the innocent elderly ignored and abandoned in nursing homes? Why do some millionaire Hollywood victims get all the attention? Many of the victims of the powerful aren't like 45 year old millionaire actors because they CAN'T call a press conference or write a book or beg for 10 million bucks so they can make a movie starring themselves and "name names" which they won't do otherwise? I think there's something sorely amiss here.


Sorry....


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I watch maybe one or two movies in the theater at the most these days, so their income isn't based off of profits from me. The movies themselves seem more and more dark and violent these days. I guess it is a sign of the times we live in.


My wife watches the Hallmark channels on TV....... Squeekly clean romance stuff, mostly. VERY, VERY low budget Hollywood "B" movies, often with "has been" actors. But I got to admit, often well done. And usually "G" rated. This is the time of the year when they constantly air their 500 Christmas movies (maybe there's more than 500 of them).


Back to the "dark" and "violent" issue before us.....
 

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If Hollywood is as wicked and bad as implied in this thread then why watch TV?
 

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And how do you propose identifying these folks? As I understand guilt still has to be proven, an accusation is not enough, we are not God so we are fallable. Take care how you exercise your judgement, you may recall our Lord counselled care when judging others, even peadophiles and perverts.


Pete from Peterborough UK

Absolutely agreed. An accusation or rumor is not enough. I don't have any personal knowledge of anyone in the business being a pervert or pedophile - nor has it been proven to me. However, if true such a thing would have to be shown on a case by case basis - not on some arbitrary list that is little more than guilt by association.

If, for some reason, you believe a particular organization is corrupt as a whole even though there may be innocent/unaware people in it, you can always make the personal choice of non support by withholding your purchasing power.
 

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If Hollywood is as wicked and bad as implied in this thread then why watch TV?

I don't. Corporate television is tailor made to make zombies and sell products through advertising.
 

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I don't. Corporate television is tailor made to make zombies and sell products through advertising.

I do not watch TV either.
 

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My wife watches the Hallmark channels on TV....... Squeekly clean romance stuff, mostly. VERY, VERY low budget Hollywood "B" movies, often with "has been" actors. But I got to admit, often well done. And usually "G" rated. This is the time of the year when they constantly air their 500 Christmas movies (maybe there's more than 500 of them).


Back to the "dark" and "violent" issue before us.....

yes, my wife has watched her share of those Hallmark movies also. Within about 15 minutes you already know how basically they are going to end. Always a happy ending.
 

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And if you want to boycott a complete industry why not focus on that one which makes more dollars than Hollywood and the drug cartels put together, the American Porn industry?

Pete from Peterborough UK

I don't imagine many people here are lining the pockets of the porn industry.
 
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