Do you believe in ghosts?:

[jesus lover]

I found a christian website that does.

Death is a departure to the spirit world, not extinction

I found this in the above weblink:

"I think I saw a ghost!" (Jesus' Disciples)

	The disciples, who had spent 3 years with Jesus, clearly believed that the spirits of dead men continued in some form of conscious existence and did not cease to exist and become extinct. On two occasions, (one before the cross, once after) Jesus' disciples thought He was a ghost! Greek: "Phantasma" a phantasm or phantom
Mk 6:47-51; Mt 14:26 before Jesus death	"And when it was evening, the boat was in the midst of the sea, and He was alone on the land. And seeing them straining at the oars, for the wind was against them, at about the fourth watch of the night, He came to them, walking on the sea; and He intended to pass by them. But when they saw Him walking on the sea, they supposed that it was a ghost (Gr: Phantasma), [they were frightened, saying, "It is a ghost (Gr: Phantasma) Mt 14:26] and cried out; for they all saw Him and were frightened. But immediately He spoke with them and said to them, "Take courage; it is I, do not be afraid."
Lk 24:36-39 after Jesus death	And while they were telling these things, He Himself stood in their midst. But they were startled and frightened and thought that they were seeing a spirit (Gr: pneuma). And He said to them, "Why are you troubled, and why do doubts arise in your hearts? "See My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself; touch Me and see, for a spirit (Gr: pneuma) does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have." Jesus stood in disciples midst after raising from the dead and they thought they were seeing a spirit. Notice that Jesus doesn't say, "silly disciples, didn't you learn anything after me spending 3 years teaching you! Spirits of dead men don't exist, they are extinct!" Instead, he admitted the existence of the departed spirits of men but added that He could not be a departed spirit because, unlike a spirit, Jesus had flesh and bones!
Acts 23:6-9	"But perceiving that one part were Sadducees and the other Pharisees, Paul began crying out in the Council, "Brethren, I am a Pharisee, a son of Pharisees; I am on trial for the hope and resurrection of the dead!" And as he said this, there arose a dissension between the Pharisees and Sadducees; and the assembly was divided. For the Sadducees say that there is no resurrection, nor an angel, nor a spirit; but the Pharisees acknowledge them all. And there arose a great uproar; and some of the scribes of the Pharisaic party stood up and began to argue heatedly, saying, "We find nothing wrong with this man; suppose a spirit or an angel has spoken to him?" Sadducees deny angel & spirit but Paul & Pharisees accept them The word "spirit" refers to departed spirits of men. It cannot refer to God as a Spirit, for they believed God is a Spirit. The fact that "angel and spirit" are both listed together, proves that spirit refers to human departed spirits not the spirits of angels etc. Important to note that Sadducees are theologically identical to Jw's, Christadelphians, SDA's and H. W. Armstrong in their view of the nature of man. Paul, through the Holy Spirit refuted them and sided with the Pharisees!

 

[SetFree]

There's no such thing as ghosts, or apparitions. Now there is such a thing as folks on their death bed seeing a past dead loved one in the heavenly dimension, as doctors have reported the bed-ridden person looking and talking to their dead loved one.

My mother, who was a devout Christian, had precognitive dreams. My nephew was born brain damaged and he was an invalid in the crib until he died when he was twelve years old. My mother continuously worried about him. One night, Mom had a dream, my nephew appeared to her in her dream as a normal talking and walking little 12 year old boy. He told Mom to not worry about him, because he was OK. Later that same morning, from another part of the U.S., Mom got a phone call from my sister-in-law, the boy's mother, to let Mom know he had died that morning.

Did my mother see a ghost? No, of course not.

I get amazed at how some ignorant brethren will believe the baloney that unbelievers behind fake Hollywood movies put out, and will accept instead of reading their Bible to discover the actual Truth on this matter.

So what about Lord Jesus on the cross when He died, and it says Jesus gave up the ghost? Just because it points to the 'breath' does not mean some Hollywood ghost story!

BIBLICAL FACTS:
1. Per God's written Word, there exists TWO different dimensions, this material earthly one we are in now, and the heavenly one where God and the angels dwell, including where the pit of hell also exists.

2. Per Hebrews 4:12, God made us with 3 parts - a spirit, a soul, and a flesh body.

3. Our 'spirit' and 'soul' are of the heavenly dimension. In Matthew 10:28, Jesus said to not fear those who can kill our flesh body, but NOT our soul, but to fear Him Who can destroy both body and soul in the lake of fire.

4. Per Ecclesiastes 12:5-7, when our flesh body dies, our 'spirit' goes back to God Who gave it, but our flesh goes back to the ground where it came from. That's means TWO DIFFERENT PLACES OF EXISTENCE. Your 'spirit' and 'soul' ARE NOT IN THE GROUND WITH YOUR DEAD FLESH.

5. In 1 Peter 3, and 1 Peter 4, at Jesus' resurrection, He went to hell and preached The Gospel to the "spirits in prison", those who had died back to the flood of Noah. This was a prophecy in Isaiah 42:7 that would happen at Jesus' 1st coming, lead the prisoners out of darkness of the prison house, meaning Satan's heavenly prison house.

6. In 1 Peter 4, The Gospel was preached also to the 'dead', so they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit. That means they are in the heavenly NOW, and those spirits which believed on Jesus are WITH Jesus in the heavenly NOW.

7. Per 2 Corinthians 5, Apostle Paul reveals that if our flesh body were suddenly dissolved, we STILL HAVE ANOTHER BODY FROM GOD, ETERNAL IN THE HEAVENS. That is about our 'spirit' body that dwells inside our flesh body while we are alive in this earthly dimension. It is loosed from our flesh when our flesh body dies. Ain't no one literally asleep in their casket in the ground. That is an old Jewish myth.

8. In John 3, Lord Jesus said, "That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit." The idea of Genesis 2:7 about God creating Adam, and Adam became "a living soul", DOES NOT MEAN Adam's soul was made part of his flesh material body. That again is an old Jewish myth.

9. The word "celestial" in 1 Corinthians 15 pointing to different types of bodies, is NOT about bodies of the heavenly dimension. The planets, stars, galaxies, solar systems, etc., are ALL part of the earthly dimension of material matter. GOD does NOT live on a far away planet! or galaxy, you Star Trek fans. The word Celestial points to the 'sky', the atmosphere around our earth. Ever heard of Celestial Navigation by the stars?

 

[Can't think of a name]

I've always had precognitive dreams even before God saved me. They continued after that too. Some Christians believe that is demonic. I asked God to take it away if it was, and they continued.

 

[Frankj]

I've always had precognitive dreams even before God saved me. They continued after that too. Some Christians believe that is demonic. I asked God to take it away if it was, and they continued.

This is the correct approach, it removes men and their limited and often faulty understandings from the process.

Let me ask out of curiosity, did the nature of your precognitive dreams change after your asking God or did they stay the same?

FWIW, I find nothing in the Bible that indicates precognitive dreams are not Godly, much of prophecy is built on them.

I am among those who believe we should pay attention to our dreams.

 

[SetFree]

I've always had precognitive dreams even before God saved me. They continued after that too. Some Christians believe that is demonic. I asked God to take it away if it was, and they continued.

They are not demonic. See Acts 2, because Apostle Peter quoted from Joel 2 when the cloven tongue of Pentecost manifested on that day, and Peter explained that it was an example of that Old Testament Joel 2 prophecy that God would pour out His Spirit upon His servants in the last days, and they would have visions, and dream dreams, etc.

Joel 2:28-32
28 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out My spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:

29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out My spirit.

30 And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.

31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.

32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.
KJV