Did the events of Maccabees take place after the end of the Old Covenant and before the beginning of the New Covenant?

[Josiah]

I think you could do a better job of explaining your point.

Nathan,


I can understand your persistent desire to avoid any accountability for your remarkable claims.... your felt need to fully exempt one (namely, you) from any need for evidence and substantiation.

But brother, this is how it works in the real world: If you make a claim - you have the responsibility to substantiate it to the level claimed. It's NOT anyone else's responsibility to do it for you (since you exempt yourself).... it's NOT the responsibility of others to prove you wrong... it's NOT the responsibiliy of others to present alternative views. If YOU claim there are 12 million flying purple people eaters living on the Moon of Endor, then it's YOU (and only you) that has the responsibility to show that's TRUE - not just your speculation.... not just something you echo from some YouTube.... not just a POSSIBILITY.... but true. I don't need to prove it for you.... I don't need to state exactly how many there are if not 12 million.... I don't have to prove it false.... I don't need to tell you how many flying people people eaters I think live on the Moon of Endor (or even if I think that moon exists). Wake up. Think. Realize that truth matters. No, my brother, you do not get a full ride, you may not exempt just you yourself from accountability and responsibility. Sorry. Ain't that easy.

What is your ultimate goal with these posts of yours?

Truth.

And friend, this is not a private blog where you can post whatever crazy, wild, false, dangerous stuff you want and it can't be challenged. It's a DISCUSSION forum which means participants agree to READ and consider what others post (not ADMIT that you don't). And this is a Christian forum and Christians hold that truth matters - not just personal speculations and guesses. At most sites, you would have been entirely ignored by now (and even here, how many still engage you?) and frankly, I suspect you would have been banned long ago. But we are nice here.... we are enbracing here.... the Staff is very forgiving. And we go to some effort to TRY to help you.... to help you realize the error of your ways. We care about people here. Brother, we're trying to help you. But you admit you don't read what's posted to you.... you've admitted your short attention span.... you've proven you just don't consider anything.



I ealize you likely won't read this but I'll add..... PART of your persistent problem is that I suspect you don't post your own point. I WONDER (just wonder) is this whole RANT of yours is nothing more than in YOUR individual Assemblies of God parish, the Deuterocanonical books are entirely ignored and perhaps even repudiated... and YOU (lately) found out actually they were held in some esteem in Christianity (and still are, even among many Protestants) and they can be very helpful! You came to share some embrace of "them." IF you had SAID that, you would have found a sympathetic community here. And we could have shared that historic esteem and shared how we too find some of these writings to be helpful. But instead, you didn't mention the Assembies of God or your parish - you repudiated PROTESTANTISM and PROTESTANTS..... you stated all kinds of either flat out FALSE claims or claims entirely unsubstantiated, completely baseless... you did a lot of "bait and switch" threads, a lot of flaming and attacking...and when posters (like Origen for example) went to GREAT lengths to try to help you - you just ignored it in your attack on Protestantism and Protestants. You played "the shell game" to avoid any defense of your crazy accusations and claims... a lot of circular reasoning.... and all the time, evading what I suspect is the ACTUAL point: Your frustration in your ignorance of these writings.... attacking US instead of the Assemblies of God and perhaps your own pastor.





.

 

[NathanH83]

I can understand your persistent desire to avoid any accountability for your remarkable claims.... your felt need to fully exempt one (namely, you) from any need for evidence and substantiation. But brother, this is how it works in the real world. If you make a claim - you have the responsibility to substantiate it to the level claimed. It's NOT anyone else's responsibility to do it for you (since you exempt yourself).... it's NOT the responsibility of others to prove you wrong... it's NOT the responsibiliy of others to present alternative views. If YOU claim there are 12 million flying purple people eaters living on the Moon of Endor, then it's YOU (and only you) that has the responsibility to show that's TRUE - not just your speculation.... not just something you echo from some YouTube.... not just a POSSIBILITY.... but true. I don't need to prove it for you.... I don't need to state exatly how many there are if not 12 million.... I don't have to prove it false.... I don't need to tell you how many purpose flying people people eaters I think live on the Moon of Endor (or even if I think that moon exists). Wake up. Think. Realize that truth matters. No, my brother, you do not get a full ride, you may not exempt just you yourself from accountability and responsibility. Sorry. Ain't that easy.






Truth. Accountability. And friend, this is not a private blog where you can post whatever crazy, wild, false, dangerous stuff you want. It's a DISCUSSION forum which means participants agree to READ and consider what others post (not ADMIT that you don't). And this is a Christian forum and Christians hold that truth matters - not just personal speculations and guesses. At most sites, you would have been entirely ignored by now (and even here, how many still engage you?) and frankly, I suspect you would have been banned long ago. But we are nice here.... we are enbracing here.... the Staff is very forgiving. And we go to some effort to TRY to help you.... to help you realize the error of your ways. We care about people here. Brother, we're trying to help you. But you admit you don't read what's posted to you.... you've admitted your short attention span.... you've proven you just don't consider anything.





.

Yea, yea, yea.
But what is the point that YOU are trying to make?

Are you trying to say that there is a large number of Protestant denominations that DON’T believe that there’s an “inter-testamental” time period?

I mean, you’re going on and on about truth and accountability. But I was asking WHAT’S YOUR POINT? What’s your goal? What are you trying to prove?

I honestly don’t understand what you’re even trying to get at.

There’s plenty of Protestant leaders who talk about the ”inter-testamental” time period.

So, what are you objecting to? Is there something you’re disagreeing with?

I just don’t understand what you’re trying to say. Can you at least explain what you’re trying to get at?

 

[Josiah]

Are you trying to say that there is a large number of Protestant denominations that DON’T believe that there’s an “inter-testamental” time period?

I'm not trying to say anything, I'm SAYING it. In black-and-white easy to understand words any middle-school student can easily understand. But you've admitted, you don't always read what people post and have a short attention span. I suspect the problem is that you don't read it, not that I'm trying to do something but can't.

TRY actually reading things. Begin with post 21 above. I'm very confident you can understand it, I have no doubts about that.

I honestly don’t understand what you’re even trying to get at.
I just don’t understand what you’re trying to say. Can you at least explain what you’re trying to get at?

... I wonder if it's not just the posts of others that you don't read but even your own posts?

You indicated that MOST Protestant DENOMINATIONS don't accept all the books YOU think all denominations must (and in the way you think they all should) BECAUSE they were written in some time period. That's your claim. That's your thesis. SO the proverbial ball is in YOUR court. Did you show that even ONE of the tens of thousands of Protestant denominations has that rationale? Nope. You didn't even ATTEMPT to show your claim to be true... because either you hold that truth is irrelevant OR that there's just one (you) who is exempt from truth. Now, I don't doubt that you can quote 3 or 4 individual Christians with that view but individuals are not denominations and 3 or 4 is not most. This is typical of you. Maybe you don't read what you post..... or you don't think truth matters or that you yourself are just exempt from it.




.