Creeds fall short when it comes to the Mystery of the GodHead

[hobie]

The quotes seriously point to anti-creedal beliefs. The creeds were written to disprove false theologies that had crept into the churches. They're highly important and is the reason we adhere to the Nicene Creed here on the site. It's our Statement of Faith.

Well, it might be well to discuss this one on one, but I apologize for what I thought was a allowable discussion, and leave it in your hands.

 

[Lamb]

Well, it might be well to discuss this one on one, but I apologize for what I thought was a allowable discussion, and leave it in your hands.

If you were FOR the Nicene Creed, why would you even consider starting a thread that wants to talk about why people should be against it?

 

[hobie]

If you were FOR the Nicene Creed, why would you even consider starting a thread that wants to talk about why people should be against it?

I didnt say I was the worlds smartest man....

 

[Can't think of a name]

I didnt say I was the worlds smartest man....

No, you didn't but you didn't respond or reply to the question that was asked to you either. Want to try again?

 

[hobie]

Not sure what you mean, but my premise as I said before is that all ideas of man fall short when it comes to the deep things of God, and that you cannot deny.

 

[hobie]

If you look or do a search, the word for the seventh day of the week still means rest or Sabbath in many languages. This makes clear or gives strong evidence that the weekly Sabbath was given at Creation to all mankind. Here are a few:

Hebrew (ancient and modern) - Shab-bath = Sabbath
Ancient Syriac - Shab-ba-tho = Sabbath
Babylonian - Sa-ba-tu = Sabbath
Assyrian - Sa-ba-tu = Sabbath
Arabic (ancient and modern) - as-Sabt = The Sabbath
Maltese - Is-sibt = The Sabbath
Ge-ez or Ethiopic - San-bat = The Sabbath
Coptic (Egypt, a dead language for 200 years) - pi sabbaton = The
Sabbath
Persian (Persia; Modern Iran) Shambih or Holiday, Sabbath
Armenian (Armenia) Shapat or Sabbath
Kurdish (Kurdistan) Shamba or Sabbath
Tamashek or Towarek - a-hal es-sabt = The Sabbath day
(from ancient Lybian or Numidian, Atlas Mountains, Africa)
Swahili (East Africa) Assabu or The Sabbath
Hausa (Central Africa) - assebatu = The Sabbath
Malayan (Sumatra) hari Sabtu or Day Sabbath
Greek - Savvato
Portuguese - Sabado
Romanian - Sambata
Russian - Subbota
Prussian (Prussia; Germany) Sabatico or Sabbath
High German (Germany) Samstag or Sabbath's day
Gothic (oldest Germanic language) - Sabbato dags
Italian - Sabato
Spanish - Sabado
Portuguese (Portugal) Sabado

When we talk with all the brothers and sisters in the Islands and Spain, Italy and South and Central America and elsewhere they have no problem recognizing which day is the Sabbath...

 

[Maranatha]

Again just an observation and a general comment
In "Christian Theology" there is a discussion about the cup that was used at the last supper.

"The word “theology” comes from two Greek words that combined mean “the study of God.”
Christian theology is simply an attempt to understand God as He is revealed in the Bible." (from got questions)

The discussion about the cup has nothing to do with the “the study of God.”
It is pure speculation.
So why not put it in a category where everyone who wants to know Biblical truth can take part.?
The same applies to many other discussions.

 

[Maranatha]

The creeds were written to disprove false theologies that had crept into the churches

Jesus clearly said that His Kingdom is not of this world.
But Constantine was an Emperor.
He ruled over his worldly Kingdom and that is all he was concerned about.

We see the same today.
Your leaders might promote "Christian values"
But all they want is your vote so they can stay in power.

 

[Lamb]

Again just an observation and a general comment
In "Christian Theology" there is a discussion about the cup that was used at the last supper.

"The word “theology” comes from two Greek words that combined mean “the study of God.”
Christian theology is simply an attempt to understand God as He is revealed in the Bible." (from got questions)

The discussion about the cup has nothing to do with the “the study of God.”
It is pure speculation.
So why not put it in a category where everyone who wants to know Biblical truth can take part.?
The same applies to many other discussions.

There are some discussions that don't fit into our other categories, so members try to find the best place to fit those questions they have.

Jesus clearly said that His Kingdom is not of this world.
But Constantine was an Emperor.
He ruled over his worldly Kingdom and that is all he was concerned about.

We see the same today.
Your leaders might promote "Christian values"
But all they want is your vote so they can stay in power.

The Nicene creed was written to show that Jesus was divine since there were people who were claiming Jesus wasn't God.

 

[hobie]

The scriptures is very clear that Jesus Christ is not just our Savior, but is also the Creator of the universe, Jehovah of the Old Testament. Notice carefully:

All things were made by Him, and without Him was not anything made that has been made. John 1:3

He [Jesus] was in the world, and the world was made by Him, and the world knew Him not. John 1:10

God, who created all things by Jesus Christ. Ephesians 3:9

For by Him [Jesus] all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. Colossians 1:16

Thus Jesus Christ is our Creator. The One who created, rested. Thus the Sabbath commandment, when correctly understood in the light of both the Old and New Testaments, points to Jesus Christ