Could California turn red?

[tango]

A friend posted this link. Judging from the name of the site I'm going to hazard a wild guess it leans to the right to some degree. Just wondered if California could turn back into a red state. Anyone got any thoughts?

Pelosi’s Stronghold Is In Jeopardy – California Vote Results Signal A Red Wave Is Coming – The Conservative Daily

 

[Albion]

A friend posted this link. Judging from the name of the site I'm going to hazard a wild guess it leans to the right to some degree. Just wondered if California could turn back into a red state. Anyone got any thoughts?

Pelosi’s Stronghold Is In Jeopardy – California Vote Results Signal A Red Wave Is Coming – The Conservative Daily

That article seems awfully optimistic to me. And even if most of those nine seats were returned to the Republican column, that would leave California far from being a red state.

 

[Josiah]

The People's Republic of California is a ONE PARTY state.

The Democrat Party owns the state. The Governor, the Senate, the Assembly, the Courts - all are entirely dominated by radical, liberal Democrats (or communists). And the press here is all radically liberal. Democrats get a "free ride" since the press always supports them.

The Republican Party here has largely shut down. There are still a few isolated spots where a Republican serves in the US House or has an (impotent) Republican in the State's government, but these are very rare. San Diego has a Republican (in name only!) mayor but he's termed out and will be replaced by one of two very liberal, radical Democrats (the two have a run off in November). No other major cities in California have a Republican mayor. In 2016, Trump didn't even campaign here in the general election - no Republican has since Reagan, it would be a waste of time because California would vote for the devil himself if he was a Democrat.

I love California! It's a WONDERFUL state. But the government ________.




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[tango]

How recently did California change sides? Wasn't it a pretty solid red state during the Reagan administration?

 

[Albion]

How recently did California change sides? Wasn't it a pretty solid red state during the Reagan administration?

It would take some doing to account for vote margins and all the elected officials down through the county level, but the quick answer would be "about the turn of the century."

 

[tango]

It would take some doing to account for vote margins and all the elected officials down through the county level, but the quick answer would be "about the turn of the century."

Whatever it took to go from a red state to the kind of nutjob state it seems to be now obviously happened over the course of just 20-odd years then. Perhaps it's not totally out of the question for the tide to turn back. We can but hope I guess.

 

[Albion]

Whatever it took to go from a red state to the kind of nutjob state it seems to be now obviously happened over the course of just 20-odd years then. Perhaps it's not totally out of the question for the tide to turn back. We can but hope I guess.

They aren't the same voters, tango. And in addition to that, the Democrats in power have changed a number of election laws in order to favor themselves.

Currently, Pelosi is attempting to impose them upon the whole nation by adding these electoral gimmicks to the fourth of the CARES acts that is about to be taken up in Congress in order to address the economic consequences of the virus. Put those two factors together and we can predict quite an uphill battle to accomplish what you are hoping for.

 

[Josiah]

Whatever it took to go from a red state to the kind of nutjob state it seems to be now obviously happened over the course of just 20-odd years then. Perhaps it's not totally out of the question for the tide to turn back. We can but hope I guess.

As I understand it, California was a rather Republican state since the Civil War until the early 1960's when it started leaning left. When Reagan became governor (1966??) he was already running in a Democrat leaning state. But in the past 20 years or so, the Republican Party has died here. Even areas like Orange County, Ventura County, San Diego County - once SOLIDLY Republican - are no longer. There are still a few hold outs in the valley (Fresno area for example) and occasionally elsewhere (inland, rural San Diego County) but these are few and far between and make no difference.


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[TopSilver]

It's doubtful California will ever be anything but Democratic. It seems to me that their vote in the Electoral College is one of the most important for the candidates running. If Republicans won them over then most likely it would be a very likely chance the Republican party would win. The majority of people there just seem to be left-wing (not counting out the minority who are republican, as there definitely is a decent bit).

 

[tango]

It's doubtful California will ever be anything but Democratic. It seems to me that their vote in the Electoral College is one of the most important for the candidates running. If Republicans won them over then most likely it would be a very likely chance the Republican party would win. The majority of people there just seem to be left-wing (not counting out the minority who are republican, as there definitely is a decent bit).

If you look at how California voted in the last election it's blue. If you look at county level it's a huge sea of red, with deep blue patches over the big cities.

Of course at state level the overall number of votes matters. It would be interesting to see what proportion of voters vote each way. From here it seems unthinkable that California might turn red but in the 80s it was a pretty solid red state.

If the Republicans do turn California red the chances are the Democrats won't see the White House for years if not decades, unless they manage to turn solid red states to blue.

 

[tango]

It's possible that people will be turned away from Pelosi, given the great sensitivity she showed with the pictures of freezers costing five figures stuffed with expensive ice cream, as a tidal wave of unemployment hurts the people she allegedly represents.

‘You should be ashamed’: Critics unleash on Pelosi for showing off freezer loaded with ice cream - Washington Examiner

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi took some heat for showing off her freezer packed with ice cream during the coronavirus crisis. The California Democrat joined comedian James Corden on his late-night show Monday and showed off how much ice cream is in her freezer in addition to wondering how Trump’s...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

 

[Albion]

But most people vote for the party--especially Democrats. So don't look for any change in the direction of 'red' any time soon.

Plus, the California Democratic Party has moved deliberately to make its majority permanent with a number of changes in the election laws, all of which help them. With a George Soros asset as Attorney General and the most Liberal of all the Federal Appellate courts higher up, they are in good position for the long haul.

 

[Albion]

If Republicans won them over then most likely it would be a very likely chance the Republican party would win.

Certainly. However, it would take a lot of time and money to win the state for any Republican presidential candidate. That commitment, if it were made, would almost certainly jeopardize that person's chances of winning the half-dozen swing states that Trump carried on his way to victory in 2016.

People who whine about Popular Vote instead of the Electoral College and insist that Hillary was really the people's choice do not realize that while she was resting, confident of victory as the polls had predicted, he picked his battles carefully and hit Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania and so won the election.

 

[tango]

Certainly. However, it would take a lot of time and money to win the state for any Republican presidential candidate. That commitment, if it were made, would almost certainly jeopardize that person's chances of winning the half-dozen swing states that Trump carried on his way to victory in 2016.

People who whine about Popular Vote instead of the Electoral College and insist that Hillary was really the people's choice do not realize that while she was resting, confident of victory as the polls had predicted, he picked his battles carefully and hit Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania and so won the election.

Very true, seeing how even California is mostly red by geography even if not by population proves why the Electoral College is needed. If it ever were abolished Los Angeles and New York City would have more voting power than many entire states across the "flyover country" combined.

We already see state governors not caring much for rural areas because they are elected by a couple of big cities. I'd hate to see that at federal level too.