Bidens 'Soul of the Nation' speech.

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Did anyone listen to it all? It was quite a speech. It demonized Conservatives and anyone who voted for Trump or who still support Trump. Biden expressed his hatered against Republicans and Conservatives, but masking it in his hatred against Trump and his followers, which are none other than the people who voted or will vote for him. And of course liberals and Democrats, there is no difference, just loved it.

This speech was in reality nothing short of a delcaration of war against Repulicans, and Conservatives. If you voted for Trump, your an enemy. Your only a respected Republican or Conservative if you agree with the Democrats.

Here is a link to the speech. Let's talk about it. Talk about the hate, and declaration of war against Republican Americans. Biden thinks that 'we the people' means people like him. Those who voted for Trump are not 'we the people' even though it got Trump elected.

We are inching closer to war that is being forced by the Democrats. They would rather go to war then to lose the next election. Even now posts like this will be considered insurrection. Rebellious. Evil. Biden has made sure of that.


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They may attempt to J6 the entire nation so they can start locking us up wholesale.

Or as you say, get us into a big, big war. They are like the kid who has to give up a toy, says, "If I can't play with it, nobody can," and proceeds to smash it to pieces.
 

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They may attempt to J6 the entire nation so they can start locking us up wholesale.

Or as you say, get us into a big, big war. They are like the kid who has to give up a toy, says, "If I can't play with it, nobody can," and proceeds to smash it to pieces.

Biden is 'commander in chief'. He can call up the armed forces at will against what 'he' and liberals dictate as a domestic threat.

Plus he has control over the F.B.I. and the liberal social media. Remember Mar-a-lago? I know he said he didn't know anything about that, but no one believes that.

So, he has already labeled Republicans, Conservatives, Trump supporters as a threat to America. We are a threat to the 'soul of the nation'...he says.

With such an evil threat in the nation, the next step will be to destroy it. Call up the military. The F.B.I. etc. etc. Actually the F.B.I. has been in their pocket for years already. They were used for years during the Trump presidency. They were used at Mar-a-lago. They will be used against you when they want to.

As I have said, the 'People's Republic of America' is in full swing. The democrats are never going to relinguish power. Biden or Harris will declare a national emergency and halt any voting results and call out the storm troopers to 'safeguard this precious nation'....'this precious democracy'.

More than likely the democrats will develop another 'false flag' incident similar to their much used 'Jan. 6 insurrection'. Thus they will posture themselves as the great defenders of our nation and it's freedomes. Yet all the while they are destroying those freedoms with every move they make.

Every step they take.

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I guess we who uphold the U.S, Constitution are enemies of the state, the People's Socialist Republic of America state, that is.
 

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They may attempt to J6 the entire nation so they can start locking us up wholesale.

Or as you say, get us into a big, big war. They are like the kid who has to give up a toy, says, "If I can't play with it, nobody can," and proceeds to smash it to pieces.
Keep in mind that a certain strategy is at work.

Whichever harmful policies are being pushed by that certain political party, the party will simultaneously condemn the opposite party for supposedly doing whatever it is that the first one is involved with.

We see it all the time. It's a technique that seeks to redirect the people's disgust over some of these extremist policies and proposals, even though it's not at all true that the opposite party is the one promoting them.
 
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They have pretty much accused Trump and MAGA of everything they themselves are guilty of and a sheep public seems to have bought it.
 

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This 'soul of the nation' speech is a theme Biden spoke about in his speech at Gettysburgh on Oct. 8, 2020, just prior to the presidential election.

Now he riterates that same sort of speech. Democrats are the light. Republicans and conservatives are darkness. Democrats want unity. Republicans and conservatives want division.

And of course Biden wants to be seen as carrying the torch passed on by Lincoln. Thus the location chosen as Gettysburgh and reference made to Lincolns 'house divided' speech.

How fitting. Just as Lincoln was determined to go to war to force a unity on America, so is Biden.

We never learn. We like to call ourselves the 'united' States of America. All the while forgetting that we are united by the bayonet only. Because the real issues of that War were never solved, then they will continue to resurface till they break out in war once more.

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Here is the thing, when you attack the capital, threaten violence then it doesnt matter what political party you are, you just became an enemy of democracy and all this country stands for
 

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Here is the thing, when you attack the capital, threaten violence then it doesnt matter what political party you are, you just became an enemy of democracy and all this country stands for
If you are referring to January 6, 2021, that was not an attack but a false flag. The left set that up to draw MAGA people in so they could arrest them. It was started by people like ANTIFA, engineered by the existing powers who control Congress. These people were bussed in and pretended to be MAGA supporters. Some real MAGA supporters were drawn in. The capitol police opened the doors and motioned people in. The people went in and did not attack anyone. Yet they sit for a year and more in terrible prison conditions being persecuted for their political beliefs. Prior to the event, Trump offered the National Guard to protect the area, but Pelosi refused, presumably because it would have prevented their false-flag plan from happening.
 

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This 'soul of the nation' speech is a theme Biden spoke about in his speech at Gettysburgh on Oct. 8, 2020, just prior to the presidential election.

Now he riterates that same sort of speech. Democrats are the light. Republicans and conservatives are darkness. Democrats want unity. Republicans and conservatives want division.

And of course Biden wants to be seen as carrying the torch passed on by Lincoln. Thus the location chosen as Gettysburgh and reference made to Lincolns 'house divided' speech.

How fitting. Just as Lincoln was determined to go to war to force a unity on America, so is Biden.

We never learn. We like to call ourselves the 'united' States of America. All the while forgetting that we are united by the bayonet only. Because the real issues of that War were never solved, then they will continue to resurface till they break out in war once more.

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Yes. If this really is a free country, they why cannot a state simply leave the union peaceably if it so chooses?
 

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Here is the thing, when you attack the capital, threaten violence then it doesnt matter what political party you are, you just became an enemy of democracy and all this country stands for
That's what some GAGA Democrats (not to be confused with MAGA Republicans) want you to think, but a reading of post #9 should help a lot. :)
 
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Yes. If this really is a free country, they why cannot a state simply leave the union peaceably if it so chooses?

We should be able to by the Constitution. But, the simple answer is this: Because the Federal government won't let us. Irregardless of the Constitution.

To the Federal government, secession involves a loss of money and power. And it will not stand for that loss. In other words, the common use of the phrase 'our freedoms' is just a facade to pacify the masses. Your freedoms are secondary, at best, when it comes to money and power. When you push your exericse of freedom to the point of secession, then you become an enemy of the state. You're taking from them money and power.

Again, this was decided by force. By war. 1861-1865 Not by the Constitution. This is why Biden chose Lincoln to represent his views. He would not have chosen Washington or Jefferson. Lincoln didn't care one wit about black slaves other then it was an agitation. He was willing to sell them into slavery forever...just don't secede. But just as we have the facade of 'freedom' so we have the 'facade' of Lincoln. And that is all they teach and that is all you hear. Thus that is all anyone believes. Americans have become puppets to the false propaganda propagated by the news media today.

In 1865 America changed. It was no longer a nation of like-minded peoples uniting for the good of their people. It was now a nation united by the bayonet, and a section of the country is forced to have to live under the rule of another section of the country. And Lincoln is the Father of that nation. Biden knows who he represents.

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If you are referring to January 6, 2021, that was not an attack but a false flag. The left set that up to draw MAGA people in so they could arrest them. It was started by people like ANTIFA, engineered by the existing powers who control Congress. These people were bussed in and pretended to be MAGA supporters. Some real MAGA supporters were drawn in. The capitol police opened the doors and motioned people in. The people went in and did not attack anyone. Yet they sit for a year and more in terrible prison conditions being persecuted for their political beliefs. Prior to the event, Trump offered the National Guard to protect the area, but Pelosi refused, presumably because it would have prevented their false-flag plan from happening.
I don't now how anyone can find this funny. They have destroyed peoples lives over this. Can we get one thing straight:
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There is a question that we as Christians must be able to address, honestly, meaning we must be able to be satisfied through the Scripture our disgust and aversion to the present criminal adminstration that is in power, and our resistance against it.

Remember (Daniel 4:25) and (4:35). Also (Rom. 13:1-4)

How do we as Christians respond?

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There is a question that we as Christians must be able to address, honestly, meaning we must be able to be satisfied through the Scripture our disgust and aversion to the present criminal adminstration that is in power, and our resistance against it.

Remember (Daniel 4:25) and (4:35). Also (Rom. 13:1-4)

How do we as Christians respond?

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The ultimate authority in the U.S. of A is the Constitution. Obedience to government is to that government that does (or insofar as it does) rule by God's plan for government, which is to punish evildoers and praise those who do good (1 Peter 2:14). The current "administration" is doing the opposite, punishing those who do good and praising evildoers, in fact, aiding and abetting evildoers.
 

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The ultimate authority in the U.S. of A is the Constitution. Obedience to government is to that government that does (or insofar as it does) rule by God's plan for government, which is to punish evildoers and praise those who do good (1 Peter 2:14). The current "administration" is doing the opposite, punishing those who do good and praising evildoers, in fact, aiding and abetting evildoers.

That is a very good point and I agree. Though I do recognize that none come to power unless God places them there for His purposes.

In resisting the evil that the present administration does, I am not resisting God or going against God. God's purposes are His alone. I simply fight against the wrong that they do.

A good example is Hitler and WW2. Did God put him in power? Of course He did. Does that mean none should oppose him? Of course not. God's purpose was the continual judgement upon the Jews due to their rejection of Jesus Christ. (Matt. 27:25) And, it was time for the Jews to get back to the land, Israel. The Jews were doing well in Europe. Most were not going to leave willingly to go back to a place not even declared a nation.

So, due to Hitler, and the resistance against him, God brought the judgement upon the Jews. He changed their thinking about staying in Europe. He forced the Gentile nations to declare and recognize Israel as a nation once more. Something none could know at the time it was going on.

So once a government becomes corrupt, I as a Christian am not required to accept the wrongs they do. And it is not wrong that I resist those wrongs. But I do recognize the persons there in power were placed there by God for His purpose. Which usually none know till years later looking back.

I have been studying the book of (Zechariah) lately and have come across an interesting parallel pointing to our situation in this country, America. I will get back later with it.

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If we look at the text for Romans 13:1-4 it seems contradictory.

1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.


Presumably the "higher powers" of verses 1 & 2 are the "ruler" of verse 3 (different Greek words though). Then verse 4 sayse these higher powers or rulers are ministers of god to us for good and to execute wrath upon those who do evil.

When a ruler goes against God's plan for rulers to be ministers to our good and to execute wrath upon those who do evil, that ruler is in rebellion against God. Are we to obey someone who is rebelling against God?

I have heard pastors say that we must obey even a tyrannical government because when Paul wrote these verses, Nero was emperor. However, I recently read a book that said Nero was a pretty good emperor and only became tyrannical about two years after Paul wrote these verses.

At any rate, it seems to me that Romans 13 is telling us to obey rulers who work for out good and punish evildoers. Biden is doing just the opposite of that. Do we therefore not recognize Biden in the verses of Romans 13. He surely does not fit the given definition of the type of ruler we are to obey.

Is there any way that pushing a fake pandemic, destroying our economy, letting masses pass unregulated over our borders, the debacle of the Afghanistan pullout, etc. could possibly be ministering for our good?

But then we have Romans 8:28 to deal with:

28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

Maybe it is to our good that we suffer and suffer extremely. America has been off the rails of morality for a long time. For decades I have been saying that America is like Sodom and Gomorrah. Have Christians been complacent, not fighting against the evil? Not taking charge of our institutions to keep them under Godly management?
 

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Yes America has been off the rails morally having abandoned the Christian faith it was built on. Worse, the church in America has for the most part abandoned the Christian faith also. The world has crept into the Church. Those who hold to the faith and the Bible as the Word of God are represented as extremists and a threat to church and government.

And I find, as I mentioned earlier, a parallel to this in (Zechariah 11:4-14) The Babylonian judgement from God upon Judah was set and inevetible. (1-3) God commands Zechariah to feed His people. (4). He calls them 'the flock of the slaughter'. Why? Because of what was about to befall the nation at the hands of the Babylonians.

The people of God, the Jews, at this time were being afflicted by their own civil and religious authorities. They sell them and slay them believing they are doing God's will. (Zech. 11:5) They show no pity.

Thus God will show no pity. (Zech. 11:6) He turns the nation over to both civil unrest and persecution from the king. "For I will no more pity the inhabitants of theland, saith the LORD; but,lo, I will deliver the men every one into his neighbour's hand, and into the hand of his king: and they shall smite the land, and out of their hand I will not deliver." Doesn't that sound familiar today. Our land is suffering under the present administration and criminals are allowed to enter and roam free. Chaos.

Zechariah said he would feed this flock of slaughter. (Zech. 11:7) He would act as a true shephard taking two staffs. One for protection and one for uniting. But he met resistance from the existing shephards and cut off three of them. His soul loathed them and they abhorred him. (8) Whether this verse speaks of the LORD or Zechariah, the same action takes place because Zechariah is acting as the LORD. It is the LORD who the shephards despise.

Thus the LORD says through Zechariah, I will not feed you. (Zech. 11:8) And he broke one staff that represented the covenant He made with Israel. (10-11) And Zechariah asked his wages from the shephards and flock of slaughter for the work he had done. And they gave him 30 pieces of silver. (12) This was the price paid to one if a slave were gored to death by an ox. (Ex. 21:29-32) It was given as an insult and showed the ingratitude of both.

And the Lord, to show His disgust with this price, ordered Zechariah to take the money and throw it to the potter in the house of the LORD.

This would play out again in Israel during the time of Christ. The flock of slaughter would be those who Christ fed but they rejected Him. They would later be slaughtered in 70 A.D. by the Roman king. He was the very king who the Jews claimed was their only king. (Matt. 19:15).

Could this be the same as today? The very king placed there by the American people also placed there by God, but not for our good. For our destruction. A nation that was built on God and Christ and the Bible has rejected Him now. And God gives us a king of our choice that will ultimately destroy us.

Would God do that? You bet He would.

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I have heard pastors say that we must obey even a tyrannical government because when Paul wrote these verses, Nero was emperor. However, I recently read a book that said Nero was a pretty good emperor and only became tyrannical about two years after Paul wrote these verses.

At any rate, it seems to me that Romans 13 is telling us to obey rulers who work for out good and punish evildoers. Biden is doing just the opposite of that. Do we therefore not recognize Biden in the verses of Romans 13. He surely does not fit the given definition of the type of ruler we are to obey.
That's a difficult issue--whether to obey even the worst of rulers OR to refuse it when they are immoral.

However, it is flatly ridiculous when people think that the horrors which have been imposed upon society by evil rulers have for some reason been deliberately planned by God. It may be argued that God *permits* men to go on in their immoral ways, but not that He approves of it or that it's part of his strategy that they do so.
 

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That's a difficult issue--whether to obey even the worst of rulers OR to refuse it when they are immoral.

However, it is flatly ridiculous when people think that the horrors which have been imposed upon society by evil rulers have for some reason been deliberately planned by God. It may be argued that God *permits* men to go on in their immoral ways, but not that He approves of it or that it's part of his strategy that they do so.

You say 'flatly ridiculous'.

Then answer these verses. (1 Kings 22:22) (2 Thess. 2:11)

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