Are Christian against Christians ?

[OneIsTheWord]

Greeting
I live to Love
Are Christians against Christians?

I always ask myself this question?

In Phil 2:3-5 Doing nothing through envy or through pride, but with low thoughts of self-let everyone takes others to be better than himself; Not looking everyone to his private good, but keeping in mind the things of others. Let this mind be in you which was in Christ Jesus,

Phil 1:15-17 Though some are preaching Christ out of envy and competition, others do it out of a good heart: These do it from love, conscious that I am responsible for the cause of the good news: But those are preaching Christ in a spirit of competition, not from their hearts, but with the purpose of giving me pain in my prison.

2 Cor 1:12 For our glory is in this, in the knowledge which we have that our way of life in the world, and most of all in relation to you, has been holy and true in the eyes of God; not in the wisdom of the flesh, but in the grace of God.

Titus 1:9-10 Keeping to the true word of the teaching, so that he may be able to give comfort by right teaching and overcome the arguments of the doubters. For there are men who are not ruled by law; foolish talkers, false teachers, especially those of the circumcision,

Phil 1:16-17 These do it from love, conscious that I am responsible for the cause of the good news: But those are preaching Christ in a spirit of competition, not from their hearts, but with the purpose of giving me pain in my prison.

2 Cor 12:20 For I have a fear that, when I come, you may not be answering to my desire, and that I may not be answering to yours; that there may be fighting, hate, angry feeling, divisions, evil talk about others, secrets, thoughts of pride, outbursts against authority;

Prov 30:11-14 There is a generation who put a curse on their father and do not give a blessing to their mother. There is a generation who seem to themselves to be free from sin but are not washed from their unclean ways. There is a generation, O how full of pride are their eyes! Oh, how their brows are lifted up! There is a generation whose teeth are like swords, their strong teeth like knives, for the destruction of the poor from the earth, and of those who are in need from among men.

Prov 11:24-26 A man may give freely, and still, his wealth will be increased; and another may keep back more than is right, but only comes to be in need. He who gives blessing will be made fat, but the curser will himself be cursed. He who keeps back grain will be cursed by the people, but a blessing will be on the head of him who lets them have it for a price.

1 Cor 11:27-34 If, then, anyone takes the bread or the cup of the Lord in the wrong spirit, he will be responsible for the body and blood of the Lord. But let no man take of the bread and the cup without testing himself. For a man puts himself in danger, if he takes part in the holy meal without being conscious that it is the Lord's body. For this cause, a number of you are feeble and ill, and a number are dead. But if we were true judges of ourselves, punishment would not come on us. But if punishment does come, it is sent by the Lord, so that we may be safe when the world is judged. So then, my brothers, when you come together to the holy meal of the Lord, let there be waiting for one another. If any man is in need of food, let him take his meal in his house; so that you may not come together to your damage. And the rest I will put in order when I come.

Malachi 3: 16 - 18 Then those in whom was the fear of the Lord had talked together: and the Lord gave ear, and it was recorded in a book to be kept in mind before him, for those who had the fear of the Lord and gave thought to his name. And they will be mine, says the Lord, in the day when I make them my special property; and I will have mercy on them as a man has mercy on his son who is his servant. Then you will again see how the upright man is different from the sinner, and the servant of God from him who is not.

1 Tim 3:1-7 This is a true saying, A man desiring the position of a Bishop has a desire for good work. The Bishop, then, is to be a man of good name, the husband of one wife, self-controlled, serious-minded, having respect for order, opening his house freely to guests, a ready teacher; Not quickly moved to wrath or blows, but gentle; no fighter, no lover of money; Ruling his house well, having his children under control with all serious behaviors; (For if a man has not the art of ruling his house, how will he take care of the church of God?) Not one newly taken into the church, for fear that, through his high opinion of himself, he may come into the same sin as the Evil One. And he is to have a good name among those outside the church so that nothing may be said against him and he may not be taken by the designs of the Evil One.

 

[Lamb]

Christians are still sinful human beings so even though Jesus insists we should love one another, we fail at that which is why He had to die on the cross to forgive us that sin.

 

[Bluezone777]

Christians are still sinful human beings so even though Jesus insists we should love one another, we fail at that which is why He had to die on the cross to forgive us that sin.

There's also the thought that not everyone who says they are Christian actually is one.

 

[atpollard]

Are Christians against Christians?

No.

 

[OneIsTheWord]

No.

Greeting

I live to love

There is a central theme in the Gospel message which is the parable of the wheat and the tare.
It is found in Matthew 13: 24 - 30, where the Lord says:

In Matthew 13:24-30 (NKJV) Another parable He put forth to them, saying: "The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field; but while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat and went his way.
But when the grain had sprouted and produced a crop, then the tares also appeared.
So the servants of the owner came and said to him, 'Sir, did you not sow good seed in your field? How then does it have tares?'
He said to them, 'An enemy has done this.' The servants said to him, 'Do you want us then to go and gather them up?'
But he said, 'No, lest while you gather up the tares you also uproot the wheat with them.
Let both grow together until the harvest, and at the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, "First gather together the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them, but gather the wheat into my barn." ' "

The word of God gives us the spiritual meaning of this Parable in Matthew 13: 37 - 43, where we read:

In Matthew 13:37-43 (NKJV) He answered and said to them: "He who sows the good seed is the Son of Man.
The field is the world, the good seeds are the sons of the kingdom, but the tares are the sons of the wicked one.
The enemy who sowed them is the devil, the harvest is the end of the age, and the reapers are the angels.
Therefore as the tares are gathered and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of this age.
The Son of Man will send out His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all things that offend, and those who practice lawlessness, and will cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Then the righteous will shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. He who has ears to hear, let him hear!

We can learn that the parable in these verses teaches us, that at the end of the mans history, there will be a separation of the saved individuals, who are called "wheat," from the individuals who thought they were saved, but in actuality, had never become saved.
They are called "Tares."

Wheat............................................Tares.

See Romans 11:25
More to come
How, When, and Who!

 

[Lamb]

We can learn that the parable in these verses teaches us, that at the end of the mans history, there will be a separation of the saved individuals, who are called "wheat," from the individuals who thought they were saved, but in actuality, had never become saved.
They are called "Tares."

The tares aren't those who thought they were saved but aren't, it's the ones who flat out reject our Savior and the forgiveness. They are the ones who damn themselves.

 

[OneIsTheWord]

The tares aren't those who thought they were saved but aren't, it's the ones who flat out reject our Savior and the forgiveness. They are the ones who damn themselves.

Actually, the Tares are the children of the wicked one, this can be proven.
these are one of many men who walk into perdition
In Hebrews 6:4-6 (NKJV) For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.
These are men who knew God but they walk into perdition by their own means

In Romans 1:21-23 (NKJV) because, although they knew God, (who walk into perdition) they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened.
Professing to be wise, they became fools, and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man--and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things.

 

[JRT]

The Christians that concern me the most are those whose attitude is in effect "If you don't believe exactly as I do, then you are not a Christian and you are going to suffer eternally in hell". When I encounter such a one, I seriously wonder about their Christianity.

 

[tango]

If it isn't a silly question, why are you turning random parts of your text into lighter colors which are harder to read, and even writing some text as white-on-white which doesn't show up at all?

On top of that you seem to have mastered the art of dumping Bible texts into posts without writing a single word as to why you consider it relevant to the topic at hand. Anyone can dump Bible text but unless you say why you're posting it and how you consider it relevant to the topic at hand all you've got is spam with chapter and verse attached.

 

[Stravinsk]

The way the OP is directing the conversation in the form of points and counterpoints, I am having difficulty ascertaining whether the question is:

A) Are Christians against Christians

or if it's really

B) Who is the real Christian


If it's A, Christians are all kinds of against each other in the form of factions comprising differing beliefs and practices.

If it's B, are you setting yourself up to be the ultimate judge of someone's soul? A bad person you see now may repent at a later time, and while we can rightly judge evil when it is present, there is a difference between this and making the ultimate judgement about someone's salvation. That is Someone Else's decision, not ours.