AA and Christianity

[ImaginaryDay2]

You don't know much about AA, do you.

Nor do you. I can give you a primer, but you'd need to commit to me teaching you for a few months.

 

[MoreCoffee]

What I find interesting is how many millions have been helped by this organization and how many have come to Christ because of this that it is being attacked. Have you ever stopped to think that people caught in the throes of alcohol usually dont believe in anything but the bottle and many have come to the end of themselves and to believe in anything is a stretch so if it helps get them sober and in their right mind where they can be receptive to Christ then I say well done. It is time that these attacks on whatever subject comes up is done away with. Personally I dont like confrontation and I suspect that others dont either so maybe if we want this site to grow we should perhaps dial it back a bit.

Some folk have a zeal for Christ that can lead them to condemn others who are not quite in the same state of mind as they. But with care and prayer folk learn that God is the Master to whom we answer not one another and so they learn to hold their tongue, avoid condemning the work of God in another person's life, and patiently as well a prayerfully wait for the grace of God to grow in others and in themselves. ... it is wisdom in communion with Christ that we all need so that we learn to bear with one another.

 

[ImaginaryDay2]

Step 2:

“Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity.”

Nowhere do they say that this Power is Christ. I've heard everything from, "don't worry about, just believe in sonething" to "a doorknob could be your higher power".

So if someone is resentful toward God, and we tell them "believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved", what kind of reception do you think you're going to get? I mean, throw them back to the wolves. Why be the light of Christ to them, that would be silly.
As for the "doorknob" nonsense, that person should certainly be corrected on their foolishness.

 

[Hammster]

What I find interesting is how many millions have been helped by this organization and how many have come to Christ because of this that it is being attacked. Have you ever stopped to think that people caught in the throes of alcohol usually dont believe in anything but the bottle and many have come to the end of themselves and to believe in anything is a stretch so if it helps get them sober and in their right mind where they can be receptive to Christ then I say well done. It is time that these attacks on whatever subject comes up is done away with. Personally I dont like confrontation and I suspect that others dont either so maybe if we want this site to grow we should perhaps dial it back a bit.

So only express your opinion of everyone agrees?

 

[Hammster]

So if someone is resentful toward God, and we tell them "believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved", what kind of reception do you think you're going to get? I mean, throw them back to the wolves. Why be the light of Christ to them, that would be silly.
As for the "doorknob" nonsense, that person should certainly be corrected on their foolishness.

You're stating how you think it should be done, not how it's actually done.

Step 2 is ambiguous.

 

[Hammster]

Nor do you. I can give you a primer, but you'd need to commit to me teaching you for a few months.

I went for about two years. Countless meetings.

 

[MoreCoffee]

Be patient ... time passes and grace works her miracles

 

[ImaginaryDay2]

I went for about two years. Countless meetings.

Going to countless meetings doesn't equal knowing how things work.

 

[ImaginaryDay2]

You're stating how you think it should be done, not how it's actually done.

Step 2 is ambiguous.

It's actually very direct, for anyone who knows anything about A.A.

So if someone is resentful toward God, and we tell them "believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved", what kind of reception do you think you're going to get? I mean, throw them back to the wolves. Why be the light of Christ to them, that would be silly.

Again, you missed a few things.

 

[ImaginaryDay2]

Finally, something to boost my post count...

 

[MoreCoffee]

Finally, something to boost my post count...

Three cheers for your post count!

 

[Hammster]

Going to countless meetings doesn't equal knowing how things work.

It does in this case.

 

[Hammster]

It's actually very direct, for anyone who knows anything about A.A.

So what is the higher power as spelled out in step 2?

 

[MoreCoffee]

1. We admitted we were powerless over alcohol—that our lives had become unmanageable.
2. Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity.
3. Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him.

 

[ImaginaryDay2]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

So what is the higher power as spelled out in step 2?

 

[Hammster]

Exactly my point. Thanks.

 

[Hammster]

An idol is making your own god. In other words, a god as you understand it.

 

[MoreCoffee]

Exactly my point. Thanks.

Kazam! What a zinger

So what exactly is idolatry about

1. We admitted we were powerless over alcohol—that our lives had become unmanageable.
2. Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity.
3. Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him.

 

[Hammster]

Kazam! What a zinger

So what exactly is idolatry about

1. We admitted we were powerless over alcohol—that our lives had become unmanageable.
2. Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity.
3. Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him.

As we understood who or what? That could be anything. Why is that not clear?

 

[MoreCoffee]

As we understood who or what? That could be anything. Why is that not clear?

It says "God". Isn't that clear enough?