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It appears to me that the apostle John didn't see the actual Jesus in person, rather;
he saw an angel who appeared as Jesus, spoke for Jesus, and spoke as Jesus.
(Rev 1:1 and Rev 22:16)
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John saw a vision.

Revelation 1:9-11 [NKJV]
9 I, John, both your brother and companion in the tribulation and kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was on the island that is called Patmos for the word of God and for the testimony of Jesus Christ. 10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord's Day, and I heard behind me a loud voice, as of a trumpet, 11 saying, "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last," and, "What you see, write in a book and send it to the seven churches which are in Asia: to Ephesus, to Smyrna, to Pergamos, to Thyatira, to Sardis, to Philadelphia, and to Laodicea."
 

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Was Jesus a Christian?
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How were John the Baptist's mom and Jesus' mom relatives?
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Name all fourteen of Jacob's sons.
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The grammar of Matt 16:18 is future tense, i.e. Jesus had not yet begun to build
his church before John was beheaded.
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To avoid confusion, please define “a Christian”.
 

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The grammar of Matt 16:18 is future tense, i.e. Jesus had not yet begun to build
his church before John was beheaded.
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Irrelevant. MATTHEW 13:17
 

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Have you tried Webster's or Wikipedia?
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Merriam-Webster: “one who professes belief in the teachings of Jesus Christ”

Then, yes. John is a Christian.
The “church” is not the source of Christians, Christ is.
Your point on Matthew 16 is irrelevant.
 
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Merriam-Webster: “one who professes belief in the teachings of Jesus Christ”

That definition would include Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, and a few other cults;
so as you can see; Webster's is too vague.

Now, you say Christ makes Christians. Well; in your opinion, how does he go about
doing that? What is his method?
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What is the "my" church spoken of at Matt 16:18
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That definition would include Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, and a few other cults;
so as you can see; Webster's is too vague.
I asked for your definition and you sent me to Webster.

If you don’t care to discuss it, then I can live with that.
I stand by my answer … John the Baptist is a Christian.
 

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I stand by my answer … John the Baptist is a Christian.

You said that Christ makes Christians. Well; in your opinion, how did he go about
making John the Baptist a Christian? What was his method?
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Name all fourteen of Jacob's sons.

His twelve natural sons were Reuben, Simeon, Levi, Judah, Issachar, Zebulun,
Joseph, Benjamin, Dan, Naphtali, Gad, and Asher. (Gen 35:23-26)

His two adopted sons were Manasseh and Ephraim. (Gen 48:5)
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How were John the Baptist's mom and Jesus' mom relatives?

John's mom was of the tribe of Levi. (Luke 1:5)

Jesus' mom was of the tribe of Judah. (Luke 1:32, Rom 1:3, and Heb 7:14)

Both tribes descend from Leah. (Gen 35:23)

Ergo: The women were cousins via the same grandmother.
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Was Jesus a Christian?

Jesus was a Jew thru and thru who believed and practiced the Old Testament in
compliance with the Prophets and the various covenants; most especially the one
that Moses' people agreed upon with God per Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and
Deuteronomy. (Gal 4:4)
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Was John the Baptist a Christian

Christianity didn't exist prior to Jesus' resurrection-- specifically before the day of
Pentecost following that event.

The day of Pentecost kicked of an era characterized by the baptism of the Holy
Spirit (Acts 1:5, 1Cor 12:12-13).

John was filled with the Spirit all his life, even prior to his birth (Luke 1:15). But he
wasn't baptized by the Spirit. This is a very, very important technicality.
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What is the "my" church spoken of at Matt 16:18


Within the global sphere of Christianity is a non-denominational classification of
individuals joined to Christ in such a manner as to be corporately identified as
his body. (Eph 1:22-23 and Eph 5:30)

This concept isn't new. In the beginning it was declared that when a man and a
woman are joined to each other as a permanent couple, they become one flesh, i.e.
one body. (Gen 3:23-24, cf. Eph 5:31-32)


FAQ: How did these individuals bond with Christ's body?

A: Via baptism by the Spirit. (1Cor 12:13)

FAQ: Not by water baptism?

A: No; by Spirit baptism. In other words: bonding with Christ's body is by means of
a supernatural method rather than a ritual method.
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What is meant by "in the Spirit"? (Rev 1:10)


This question is difficult because a Geek word for "the" isn't in the Greek
manuscript; and the word "Spirit" need not be capitalized because it isn't modified
by a derivative of the little Greek article "ho".

So in straight-up English, Rev 1:10 says: "I was in spirit."

Same goes for Rev 4:2, Rev 17:3, and Rev 21:10, and then there's also John 4:23-
24 which says:

"An hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in
spirit and truth; for such people the Father seeks to be His worshipers. God is spirit,
and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth."

And John 13:21

"When Jesus had said this, he became troubled in spirit, and testified, and said:
Truly, truly, I say to you, that one of you will betray me."

And 1Cor 5:3

"For I verily, as absent in body, but present in spirit, have judged already, as
though I were present, concerning him that hath so done this deed"

John said he was in spirit on the Lord's day; which is the calendar day of the week
corresponding to the day that Jesus' crucified dead body was restored to life; which
was the first day of the Jews' week, i.e. the day following their traditional seventh
day sabbath. (Mrk 16:1-2)

I might be taking some liberty here in guessing at this but it appears to me that
when John was in spirit on the Lord's day. it means that his mental and emotional
states were appropriate for meditating upon Jesus' resurrection.
(c.f. 1Cor 11:17-29)
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What is a Prophet?
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