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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    False, to say that the world as in all mankind is objectively Justified before God is false, that means the whole world of mankind is objectively, legally saved, and that's a false teaching. Now the elect of God were objectively Justified by the death of Christ, and sometime in their lifetime...
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    messy Yes. Just like Christ died for their sins before they existed. If Christ died for your specific sins, was it before you were born or after you were born ?
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Huh, now you speaking nonsense
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Thats error. A person Christ died for has been Justified before God before they are born, they are born Justified. Then later on in their life God gives them the New Birth with the Gift of Faith to believe it.
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    The righteousness the Justified have is revealed, made known by Faith. The Justification made by Christ was imputed to the Justified sinner, before the sinner was born as a sinner.
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Justification of Life ! 3 Rom 5:18 18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life. Now the blessing Justification of life is a blessing given to all for whom...
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    Faith

    Heb 11:1 is Not Natural Human Faith ! Heb 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. This Faith is not that which is of the human nature, the natural man, or of the flesh. This is True because its gives evidence of things not seen by the natural...
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    I understand it, Paul is addressing those who have already been reconciled, thats clear from Vs 18-19 2 Cor 5:18-19 18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation; 19 To wit, that God was in Christ...
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Well this ends right here because you have gone in a entirely different direction. You simply dont believe, understand Rom 5:10 10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    You have started a rabbit trail, You went and got a quote from a guy and you dont even believe what he believed, nor understand what he was saying. So again, you deny objective reconciliation, and how and when it was accomplished. Rom 5:10 10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to...
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    I can see you are fearful to admit the plain truth right in front of you. According to Rom 5:10 how were they reconciled to God and when ? 10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    If you agree with the writer, then what is objective reconciliation ? When according to Rom 5:10 were they objectively reconciled to God and how ? 10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life...
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    According to Rom 5:10 how were they reconciled and when ? 10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Im aware of views like that, however Im speaking about objective reconciliation, that's a finished reconciliation by Christs death alone which you have denied, the writer hasn't denied it !
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Again, how were they reconciled to God according to Rom 5:10 10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    According to Rom 5:10 how were they reconciled to God and when ? 10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    messy Yes you do discredit His death, because it plainly states they were reconciled to God while being enemies, not by responding. Rom 5:10 10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    So you discredit Christs death, it plainly says they were reconciled to God by the death of His Son. 10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life. You saying the relationship with God wasnt good...
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    So you saying they werent all the way reconciled in Rom 5:10 10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    You dont get it either
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