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    Yeshua, the Unleavened Bread...

    Leaven is used as a metaphor for the Kingdom of Heaven. He told them still another parable: "The kingdom of heaven is like yeast that a woman took and mixed into a large amount of flour until it worked all through the dough." (Matthew 13:33)
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    As a voting Christian...

    I wonder if electing a candidate (for the republicans) who isn't fabulously rich is even possible now? It seems that the default headline for republican nominees is "Republicans elect Rich Dude as presidential nominee" and that can't be good for a party that wants to appeal to enough people to...
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    Communion - Symbolic or Real?

    Why is it worldly (temporal you said) to accept what Jesus said at face value? Why is it worldly to believe "Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, ye have not life in yourselves"? What do you mean by spiritual in relation to "Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man...
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    Communion - Symbolic or Real?

    It looks like you're arguing for the sake of it since the passage defines the meaning this way "But be on your guard against the yeast of the Pharisees and Sadducees. Then they understood that he was not telling them to guard against the yeast used in bread, but against the teaching of the...
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    Communion - Symbolic or Real?

    It appears that you've overworked the words of the Lord because you want to make something out of both the yeast and the bread yet the holy scriptures speak only of the yeast as significant and define the yeast of the Pharisees and Sadducees as the teaching of the Pharisees and Sadducees.
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    Communion - Symbolic or Real?

    I can't help but think that your choice of analogy is a mistake. Jesus did say ""Be on your guard against the yeast of the Pharisees and Sadducees" yet he did not say "the leaven is for making a loaf of bread". The passage reads thus: Be careful, Jesus said to them. "Be on your guard against...
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    Slain in the spirit

    The alternatives you offer suffer from the same faults as the original "you can't receive what you don't believe" because atheists who receive grace do not choose to receive it (though they may reject the faith once it is presented to them). And I do not think that the rain and sunshine that God...
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    Communion - Symbolic or Real?

    What does 'spiritual' mean? Is it a synonym for 'metaphorical'? Is that what you mean when you say "and we know he speaks of spiritual things and not carnal" after I quoted Jesus saying "Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, ye have not...
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    Slain in the spirit

    The thread travelled from 'slain in the spirit' to 'saved by grace' by the road created with the claim "you can't receive what you don't believe". What happened is that one person wrote "you can't receive what you don't believe" implying that if you don't believe in being slain in the spirit...
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    Communion - Symbolic or Real?

    Why can't we eat the Lord. Jesus said "Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, ye have not life in yourselves." (John 6:53)
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    Communion - Symbolic or Real?

    Yes, it was unleavened bread according to Matthew, Mark, and Luke but John doesn't mention that it is unleavened. So why is that relevant? Jesus said "take eat, this is my body" why do you say that the words of the Lord are symbolic? Is the bread not his body?
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    Christians taking communion in other churches

    perhaps
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    Christians taking communion in other churches

    There is no command to receive communion in the holy scriptures as far as I am aware, do you think that there is and if so where is it? You said "Communion is between you and the Lord not between you and the church and it is the right of every believing christian in fact it is a duty." I just...
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    Christians taking communion in other churches

    I've never thought of holy communion as a right. Where is it set forth as a right in the holy scriptures?
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    Communion - Symbolic or Real?

    Why would a change in the law mean God made mistakes?
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    Communion - Symbolic or Real?

    What is higher (1) the law, (2) the law giver? If your answer is (2) the law giver then the dilemma constructed on your post is over. God can make laws and then make new ones as his purposes mature in creation.
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    Communion - Symbolic or Real?

    The council of Trent also says the following (in the same decree 13). CHAPTER IV. On Transubstantiation. And because that Christ, our Redeemer, declared that which He offered under the species of bread to be truly His own body, therefore has it ever been a firm belief in the Church of God, and...
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    Communion - Symbolic or Real?

    The council of Trent says (in English translation from the Latin text):SESSION THE THIRTEENTH, Being the third under the Sovereign Pontiff, Julius III., celebrated on the eleventh day of October, MDLI. DECREE CONCERNING THE MOST HOLY SACRAMENT OF THE EUCHARIST The sacred and holy, oecumenical...
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    Communion - Symbolic or Real?

    John chapter six lends itself to a Eucharistic understanding and the holy Eucharist requires faith doesn't it so I don't see that there is any disjunction between seeing the chapter as essentially about the holy Eucharist and also essentially about Christian faith in Jesus Christ. Nevertheless I...
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    Slain in the spirit

    In the Presbyterian church that I attended I was taught to be anti-Catholic in all sorts of ways some were little (such as competing with Catholics to say "amen" when cued) and some were large (such as complaining about Trent's definition of Justification) and some were deeply ingrained into...
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