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describe or change?
Do the words of Christ describe reality or do they change reality? Now while they were eating the meal, Jesus took bread, and he blessed and broke and gave it to his disciples, and he said: "Take and eat. This is my body." And taking the chalice, he gave thanks. And he gave it to them, saying...- MoreCoffee
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- Forum: Christian Theology
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What does it mean when someone says they weren't saved in the first place?
I don't get worked up about what is meant by saying that they cannot be returned to repentance. Some think that means they can never ever be brought back to faith and grace in God. I am not convinced by that claim. But it is not the point being made here is it? The passage says that some who...- MoreCoffee
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- Forum: Christian Theology
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ICE raids
The rhetoric of terrorism does not apply to the vast majority of undocumented aliens in the USA so it matters because the rhetoric of banning and deporting is mainly about alleged terrorists and criminals. If the rhetoric is changed so it becomes about deporting everybody who is in the USA...- MoreCoffee
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- Forum: News Center
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What does it mean when someone says they weren't saved in the first place?
Paul (or whoever wrote Hebrews) says that people who were once illuminated, and have even tasted of the heavenly gift, and have become sharers in the Holy Spirit, who, despite having tasted the good Word of God and the virtues of the future age, have yet fallen away (Heb 6:4-5)can't be brought...- MoreCoffee
- Post #32
- Forum: Christian Theology
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What does it mean when someone says they weren't saved in the first place?
Snerfle, I said "some protestants" and you decided it meant you. I didn't say you were a protestant. I have no idea what folk are until they tell me and even then I am not sure what their chosen designation means.- MoreCoffee
- Post #31
- Forum: Christian Theology
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What does it mean when someone says they weren't saved in the first place?
Yes, I have heard that sort of reply before and I have heard the other reply that says "no, they never were saved, they just pretended". It's a shame that people make their theology distort reality.- MoreCoffee
- Post #28
- Forum: Christian Theology
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Antihistamines for works.
I've heard Calvinist teaching before. I was an elder in a Presbyterian church - a rather evangelical/conservative one. I don't see much that is worth debate in trying to dissect somebody's claim to faith to the point where one claims that if they have no convincing faith now then they never had...- MoreCoffee
- Post #37
- Forum: Christian Theology
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