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  1. MoreCoffee

    Election

    The Greek word for elect is ἐκλεκτός (eklektos) meaning chosen out, elect, choice, select, sometimes as subst: of those chosen out by God for the rendering of special service to Him (of the Hebrew race, particular Hebrews, the Messiah, and the Christians).
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    Election

    That isn't quite right. The merits of Christ are infinite and I am confident that enterprising monks, bishops, and even a pope or two would find a way to raise money even from the merits of Christ. Religion and money are still bedfellows, even among Protestant denominations.
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    Election

    The word "church" is derived from the phrase "doma kuriakon" (δόμα κυριακόν) meaning house of the Lord, the word κυριακόν (kuriakon) was transliterated as kuriakon which became kiriko and then cirice and then chirche and finally church. But Ecclesiastical and Ecclesiastic are derived from...
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    Salvation

    It's odd that a chap can say what saint James says and be acknowledged as inspired by God and yet some contradict him asserting that to say a man is justified by works and not by faith alone is preaching works-righteousness which appears to mean preaching...
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    What is the proper pronunciation of the name of the element Al

    Aluminium!!!
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    Salvation

    Works play a role in Justification as saint James wrote: a man is justified by works and not by faith alone (James 2:24) I am happy to affirm James' statement as true. And men like Job and Enoch received God's testimony to their righteousness because of what they did, Abram too received this...
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    Election

    You replied to the reddish bold bit in Albion's post. I made the text reddish bold so that the part you replied to would be visibly obvious. Albion's post is in error for several reasons. The section that is not reddish bold asserts that somebody, no names given, believes that Man can save...
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    Salvation

    MennoSota's suggestion about google translate is absurd. For one thing google translate is meant for modern Greek rather than Koine Greek and for another I used my own knowledge of koine Greek to do a "word for word" translation. I did study Koine Greek at The Westminster Institute of Biblical...
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    Biblical meaning - literal, allegory, or...?

    I'm not too sure that there's a difference. Did you know, and this is a serious question, that the only thing(s) that is (are) inspired is the holy scriptures and "scriptures" means "writings".
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    Salvation

    I am sure that something like that was in a post I wrote a while back. It's here http://christianityhaven.com/showthread.php?5424-Salvation&p=139118#post139118
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    Should Teachings be Accountable?

    Looks like I missed the hubbub. In answer to Josiah's fundamental question. Yes there is objective truth - it is Jesus Christ. Yes truth matters - God is Truth and God matters. Yes people can know the Truth even if their knowledge of it is only partial and only by analogy nevertheless people...
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    Election

    “faith alone” is by no means a sign that one is among the elect of God. Christians cannot have, on earth, certitude of their predestination without a special revelation from God. Aside from this special revelation no man can know if he will persevere in faith and good works to the end...
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    Salvation

    You translate the passage then, here's the Greek. You rejected the translation that I gave let's see you do it. Ὥστε, ἀγαπητοί μου, καθὼς πάντοτε ὑπηκούσατε, μὴ ὡς ἐν τῇ παρουσίᾳ μου μόνον ἀλλὰ νῦν πολλῷ μᾶλλον ἐν τῇ ἀπουσίᾳ μου, μετὰ φόβου καὶ τρόμου τὴν ἑαυτῶν σωτηρίαν κατεργάζεσθε, θεὸς γάρ...
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    Salvation

    "continue working out your salvation" The word "out" is not in the Greek but many translators appear to think that the English needs it to make the sentence comprehensible. The Greek says "with fear and trembling your own salvation work-down" make whatever sense you can out of that. Here is the...
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    Salvation

    You gave your opinion about the alleged meaning and your opinion is contrary to the consensus among Calvinist commentators. You showed the NLT paraphrase which is not accurate translating.
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    Election

    God both guides his people on the right path and they find their own paths too. That ought not to be a surprise to you. The Lord Jesus Christ spoke about it. Do you remember the broad and very spacious road and the other road that was narrow and difficult? Those are paths are they not? One that...
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    Salvation

    That's not translating that paraphrasing. The passage definitely does not say "Work hard to show the results of your salvation". The Greek says nothing even remotely like that. The Greek says 12 ὥστε, ἀγαπητοί μου, καθὼς πάντοτε ὑπηκούσατε, μὴ ὡς ἐν τῇ παρουσίᾳ μου μόνον ἀλλὰ νῦν πολλῶ μᾶλλον...
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    Election

    God both guides his people on the right path and they find their own paths too. That ought not to be a surprise to anybody. The Lord Jesus Christ spoke about it. Do you remember the broad and very spacious road and the other road that was narrow and difficult? Those are paths are they not? One...
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    Election

    You, brother Arsenios, are making me chuckle and that is not fair, this is supposed to be a most serious enquiry into election, or so the first post appears to indicate. :no: :studying::work: :smirk:
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    Salvation

    Yes, you disagree and that does not make you right it only makes your post disagree with whatever it is you think my post means and says. That's your opinion. I do not share it. And I go out of my way to include context whenever it is useful - which is almost always - and only resort of single...
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