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  1. prism

    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    I don't see why you can't share the Gospel holding to limited atonement. The Gospel is not a message of assurance, but rather it's a proclamation of the forgiveness of sins on account of Christ's OBJECTIVE atoning work. It is His Spirit that draws individuals to Himself. In the words of...
  2. prism

    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    So Jesus started a work but left it unfinished? He died for all and then left mankind wallowing in it's own sinful depravity, blinded by satan, groping in darkness?
  3. prism

    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    Like I said in the beginning, the L in TULIP is unprovable, as there are passages that point both ways.. Hence all the debate on the topic. Free will was true with unfallen Adam and Jesus, otherwise . Ephesians 2:2-3 KJV Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this...
  4. prism

    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    In my case, Calvin had nothing to do with it . The Lord drew me, convicted me and revealed His Son to me. I have nothing to boast of, such as free will, cleverness or a shiny pedigree. I cannot know who are the elect, but I do know after going through a radical transformation through the new...
  5. prism

    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    The Holy Spirit knows who are His and convicts those same of their sinfulness as well as reveal Jesus to them ( His elect).
  6. prism

    What is your accent?

    ok mon, whatever.
  7. prism

    What is your accent?

    I probably should have said 'dawg' instead of 'mon' to avoid confusion.
  8. prism

    What is your accent?

    Esaay, East Los Angeles mon.
  9. prism

    The Doctrine of Limited Atonement Now in a Debate Approved Area.

    I would disagree with Dave as well if in fact He actually said that...or is that the logical conclusion you draw out of his posts? We're not going to violate 'sola Scriptura' and lean on Church Tradition are we?
  10. prism

    The Doctrine of Limited Atonement Now in a Debate Approved Area.

    Revelation 13:8 KJV And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
  11. prism

    The Doctrine of Limited Atonement Now in a Debate Approved Area.

    so He predestinated called and justified all because He died for all men? Or He died for all but was too impotent to carry out the rest of His purpose due to man's sinful will?
  12. prism

    The Doctrine of Limited Atonement Now in a Debate Approved Area.

    Do you have Scriptural backing that says 'God arbitrarily chose'? And yes, there must be a 'revealing' as in... (Mat 16:17) And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
  13. prism

    The Doctrine of Limited Atonement Now in a Debate Approved Area.

    Josiah, I'm not so sure 'faith/justification' is the sum and substance of it all... (Rom 8:28) And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose. (Rom 8:29) For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be...
  14. prism

    Christmas tree

    We use to do a tree when we had children, now my wife and I do a manger.
  15. prism

    The Doctrine of Limited Atonement Now in a Debate Approved Area.

    Yet the ramifications of limited atonement would make God partial, choosing beforehand who He would and would not die for. Ok, I hold to solus Christus, not limited atonement for salvation. This touches on total depravity rather than limited atonement.
  16. prism

    The Doctrine of Limited Atonement Now in a Debate Approved Area.

    Am I to assume I am the one also being addressed besides Dave? If so, as I have previously stated, I have no solid stance on this issue... only challenges to both sides.
  17. prism

    The Doctrine of Limited Atonement Now in a Debate Approved Area.

    John 17:6 (KJV) I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word. John 17:9 (KJV) I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine. Just...
  18. prism

    The Doctrine of Limited Atonement Now in a Debate Approved Area.

    Hi Josiah, I know this pendulum swings both ways (as well as proof passages) and appreciate both Dave and your responses regarding this matter. My only question for you (as a Lutheran) is 'if He died for all, why weren't all predestinated or elected?'
  19. prism

    The Doctrine of Limited Atonement Now in a Debate Approved Area.

    Well Gal 4:5 has for 'redeem'... (CWSB Dictionary) 1805. ἐξαγοράζω exagorázō; fut. exagorásō, from ek (G1537), out or from, and agorázō (G0059), to buy. To buy out of, redeem from. Used of our redemption by Christ from the curse and yoke of the Law (Gal. 3:13; 4:5). To redeem as spoken...
  20. prism

    The Doctrine of Limited Atonement Now in a Debate Approved Area.

    In what sense if not a redemptive sense? ‘Swift destruction’ sounds like a tie-in to redemption. Why would their heresies be considered ’damnable’ if not tied in with Christ’s redemptive work?
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