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They that believed on His Name ! But why ?
Jn 1:12-13
12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
They that believed...
God gives them faith when He gives them life. So until they have life given to them they are dead spiritually. You want and think spiritually dead folk can do spiritual activity, sorry but you wrong, thats as foolish as supposing people can do physical activity while they are physically dead...
messy
Wonder if they are dead, no life in them. Could they hear you, could they put hands up in the air ? See man by nature is spiritually dead friend.
If you dont believe in unconditional election by grace, you dont believe in Salvation by grace through faith. You must believe in salvation by your worth, something God seen in you that He didnt see in them that reject Him.
All for whom Christ died are Justified !
Rom 8:33-34
33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession...
albion said
Thats false and more opposition to the scripture. The words shall be saved by His life are in the future, passive indicative, now the indicative means:
Is a simple statement of fact. If an action really occurs or has occurred or will occur, it will be rendered in the indicative...
albion
No thats impossible, unless you are a universalist. The reconciled in that verse shall be saved His Life, thats a guarentee Rom 5:10
10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
Justification beware !
It must be careful on how we understand Justification before God legally by the Obedience/Death of Christ, and Justification by ones work/s whenever we have Justification applied to us by the New Birth, or given heart circumcision, whereby we participate, partake in a...
Again, you will put me on ignore, because you in my opinion are in unbelief. You say a person who Christ died for, isnt Justified before God until they believe. Thats unbelief, because a person Jesus Christ died for, is Justified before God on that basis, before they believe.