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    What is the Church?

    I attend mass in one, it's quite nice. Saint Paul hired a lecture hall in Ephesus.
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    What is the Church?

    I personally have none.
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    What is the Church?

    The post that I wrote never mentions church buildings.
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    What is the Church?

    CHURCH is the name given the "convocation" or "assembly" of the People God has called together from "the ends of the earth." In Christian usage, the word "Church" has three inseparable meanings: the People that God gathers in the whole world; the particular or local church (diocese); and the...
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    A Catholic perspective on Limited Atonement and Universal Atonement arguments.

    What you've written is a redefinition of "church", it will only lead to corruption and harm. I urge you to let the scriptures speak unchanged to you. Of course the body of Christ is both physical and spiritual; both present on Earth and present in heaven. Catholics await the second advent of...
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    A Catholic perspective on Limited Atonement and Universal Atonement arguments.

    It is sufficient for me that Christ be praised everywhere, his glory acknowledged, his truth believed. Holy Scripture speaks truth from God. The Church is Christ's body, it is the pillar and ground of truth. that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which...
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    A liturgical thought for today, 19th December, the Monday before Christmas day.

    “O stock of Jesse, who stand as a sign for the nations; before whom kings fall silent; whom the peoples acclaim – come come to deliver us, do not delay any more.” Born into humble circumstances, Jesus is nevertheless a descendant of David and his father Jesse. The family has long lost its...
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    A Catholic perspective on Limited Atonement and Universal Atonement arguments.

    Neither the bible nor the Church is the standard of truth but both draw from Christ who is himself The Truth. Jesus saith to him: I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No man cometh to the Father, but by me. John 14:6 Everything is measured by Christ and everything is tested by him. He is...
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    A Catholic perspective on Limited Atonement and Universal Atonement arguments.

    One is always bound by truth. No one can have Christ as Lord and at the same time invent a religion that Christ has not revealed and given to humanity himself. Such religions are always fundamentally opposed to truth. That is why those who follow them must redefine words in scripture so often...
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    A Catholic perspective on Limited Atonement and Universal Atonement arguments.

    That may be your preferred topic but the topic of this thread is A Catholic perspective on Limited Atonement and Universal Atonement arguments.
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    Mary the ark

    That attribution of motives does not sound right. Mary is regarded as the ark of the new covenant because of passages in scripture, one of which is this: And the temple of God was opened in heaven: and the ark of his testament was seen in his temple. And there were lightnings and voices and an...
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    A Catholic perspective on Limited Atonement and Universal Atonement arguments.

    The definition that you've given is not how the word is used in scripture. ἀπόλλυμι apóllumi or apolúō; fut. apolésō, 2d aor. apōlómēn, perf. apolṓleka, 2d perf. apólōla, mid. fut. apoloúmai, from apó (G575) an intens., the mid. óllumi (n.f.), to destroy. The force of apó here is away...
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    A Catholic perspective on Limited Atonement and Universal Atonement arguments.

    You will die, will you not? When you say "perish" are you thinking of the last judgement? But when the Son of man will have arrived in his majesty, and all the Angels with him, then he will sit upon the seat of his majesty. And all the nations shall be gathered together before him. And he shall...
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    A Catholic perspective on Limited Atonement and Universal Atonement arguments.

    Because all have sinned. Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into this world, and through sin, death; so also death was transferred to all men, to all who have sinned. For even before the law, sin was in the world, but sin was not imputed while the law did not exist. Yet death reigned...
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    A Catholic perspective on Limited Atonement and Universal Atonement arguments.

    In Protestantism, "since the 17th Century, there have been TWO views on this". The Catholic Church has had a single view about Christ being the one who, "takes away the sin of the world", for a very long time.
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    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    #1 is not what the passage says. The passage says that one is Jesus' friend if one obeys his commandments. If you keep my commandments, you shall abide in my love: as I also have kept my Father's commandments and do abide in his love. These things I have spoken to you, that my joy may be in...
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    A Catholic perspective on Limited Atonement and Universal Atonement arguments.

    I do not use it. I am not beholding to these people. I need not conform to their expectations. Besides which, the Catholic Church's view is that scripture expresses itself on this matter in the vocabulary that Catholics use. So, it is not a Catholic Church problem when people from some religion...
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    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    What statements would those be?
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    A Catholic perspective on Limited Atonement and Universal Atonement arguments.

    Alas, the one word that has always been at the root of errors of almost every kind.
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    A Catholic perspective on Limited Atonement and Universal Atonement arguments.

    For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith. Romans 1:16-17...
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