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  1. Andrew

    Who entertained angels unaware, as stated in Hebrews 13:2?

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  2. Andrew

    Who entertained angels unaware, as stated in Hebrews 13:2?

    What's the obvious to you? It doesn't say therefore its a huge mystery that can never be solved even if the answer is found in the canon?
  3. Andrew

    Who entertained angels unaware, as stated in Hebrews 13:2?

    It can't be Tobit because neither modern Judaism or Protestantism accepts Tobit as scripture therefore go put on your dunce hat and sit in the corner with the Catholics and the Eastern Orthodoxy
  4. Andrew

    Doesn’t the book of Hebrews reference Maccabees?

    No no, that's not what happened.. Haven't you studied greek history? The Jews revolted against the greeks for publishing silly made up stories about them and their "wacky hebrew adventures" and secretly shelving them inside the synagogues for their own amusement, crying with laughter whenever...
  5. Andrew

    Doesn’t the book of Hebrews reference Maccabees?

    Yes, Paul references many scriptural characters for worthy examples to express the perfection of a martyrs faith throughout certain parts of the book of Hebrews when addressing the Hebrews. If I had to pick a candidate for the split in two martyr I might call John the Baptist a martyr who's...
  6. Andrew

    Doesn’t the book of Hebrews reference Maccabees?

    Why can't you answer the original question I asked? I am asking you how Jewish "apocrypha" got into the Christian bible. How did books such as the books of Maccabees make it into our bibles especially if the Jews didn't ever accept them? Why didn't the Christians just add Homers Odyssey...
  7. Andrew

    Doesn’t the book of Hebrews reference Maccabees?

    You are still talking about NT era books, im talking about OT era books that migrated to the hands of our first Christians and into our Christian bibles which includes the so called "apocrypha" books. I hate to say it but Josiah this appears to be a straw man argument you keep pushing.. trust...
  8. Andrew

    Doesn’t the book of Hebrews reference Maccabees?

    Well if one rotten apple of an oral tradition don't spoil the bunch, Paul obviously was speaking of a heroic biblical martyr who's record of martyrdom didn't survive. If it was Manasseh who had Isaiah sawn in two and it was at one time recorded then it would be right where the Bible said it...
  9. Andrew

    Doesn’t the book of Hebrews reference Maccabees?

    Exactly, except there was no such canon established in Paul's time, not until at least 90 AD after the destruction of the 2nd Temple, a more proper way to put it would be something like... "So the quotes would have come from Hebrew scripture rather than secular literature"
  10. Andrew

    Doesn’t the book of Hebrews reference Maccabees?

    That's rude.
  11. Andrew

    The Jewish Messiah is here

    His name is Sammy
  12. Andrew

    Doesn’t the book of Hebrews reference Maccabees?

    Context shows us that Paul was addressing hebrews (not pagan gentiles) and was using hebrew scripture to provide examples of strong devotion and Faith in this sermon, he does not use secular literature or poets like he did with the pagans, he is using what the Jews relate to
  13. Andrew

    Doesn’t the book of Hebrews reference Maccabees?

    Hold up, OF COURSE Christian letters and testimonials etc circulated among Christians! This book was written well before the advent of Christianity, it wasn't Greek mythology either, it was a Jewish writing translated into a common language at the time (Greek) and the story of Maccabees is...
  14. Andrew

    Doesn’t the book of Hebrews reference Maccabees?

    ok.. you're welcome btw
  15. Andrew

    Doesn’t the book of Hebrews reference Maccabees?

    It was important enough to circulate throughout early Christendom, it didn't just appear in the hands of Christians without it being accepted, it didn't just wiggle its way into our Bibles, there is no logic in that scenario.. the only logical possibility is that it was removed from the hands of...
  16. Andrew

    Doesn’t the book of Hebrews reference Maccabees?

    The Holy Bible 1611 Edition King James Version (word-for-word facsimile of the original 1611) Hendrickson publishers
  17. Andrew

    Doesn’t the book of Hebrews reference Maccabees?

    The Odyssey is not a Jewish book, what Jewish book from the OT times has survived today that has anything other to do with Judaism?
  18. Andrew

    Doesn’t the book of Hebrews reference Maccabees?

    To understand Bible prophecy you must understand the historical accounts recorded therein (opposed to secular versions of history) to verify that it indeed was fulfilled, so no its not just a great history lesson, it's a Jewish account of great importance to the Jewish people passed down and...
  19. Andrew

    Should Christians be more libertarian towards secularist?

    In Revelation 22:11 we read... "He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still" Should Christians actively participate in public protest or stick to...
  20. Andrew

    These signs will accompany those who believe

    Exactly, well put
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