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  1. Andrew

    In what ways does the Apocrypha point to Jesus as Savior?

    No I am not stating that, we are discussing what the OP calls "apocrypha" according to her denomination respectfully
  2. Andrew

    In what ways does the Apocrypha point to Jesus as Savior?

    No I'm sorry but none of what you wrote was of any help to me. We are not discussing the books of canon we are discussing the books of the apocrypha and whether or not they contain prophecy of Jesus Christ. Please answer my question regarding the passages I provided in post 4
  3. Andrew

    In what ways does the Apocrypha point to Jesus as Savior?

    Regardless of every thing you just stated, can you provide any explanation on how the passages I posted in post #4 are not inspired nor prophetic and are merely good to read ?
  4. Andrew

    In what ways does the Apocrypha point to Jesus as Savior?

    These especially stand out as prophetic This is our God, and there shall none other be accounted of in comparison of him. He has found out all the way of knowledge, and has given it to Jacob his servant, and to Israel his beloved. Afterward did he show himself upon earth, and conversed with...
  5. Andrew

    Why do people say that Tobit 1:15 is historically mistaken?

    Explain what you meant by that
  6. Andrew

    What year was it when Protestants first started to remove books from the Holy Bible?

    Well regardless the canon of Rufinus is rather deceptive, I say this because after his list of canon and non canon ecclesiastical books used for edification (Jeromes "apocrypha") he says that these were handed down from the church... but the fact is that the Church before Jerome NEVER had an...
  7. Andrew

    What year was it when Protestants first started to remove books from the Holy Bible?

    You are right it wasn't decades, I thought the letters came long after their departure. However had you have read the two books of Apology of Rufinus you will find that he actually says he "followed" Jerome, I will cite that when my connection gets better. I did copy paste this part where...
  8. Andrew

    What year was it when Protestants first started to remove books from the Holy Bible?

    Yeah that was decades before he realized that Jerome was wrong on MANY MANY levels. He later defends the LXX that the Church used, gives us Susanna as an example, goes on about books that were said to be false which are the ones he first rejected in his list, what other books is he talking...
  9. Andrew

    What year was it when Protestants first started to remove books from the Holy Bible?

    Did Peter the Apostle of Christ deceive the church and deliver to them books which were false and contained nothing of truth? What books is he talking about?
  10. Andrew

    What year was it when Protestants first started to remove books from the Holy Bible?

    Susanna?
  11. Andrew

    What year was it when Protestants first started to remove books from the Holy Bible?

    You Did Not Read The Whole Thing Did You?
  12. Andrew

    What year was it when Protestants first started to remove books from the Holy Bible?

    I don't disagree with Nathan, popularity + canon based on councils is further validation. Now, as from a quote from an early Bishop I had posted earlier, the list of books accepted was based on the popularity of the books read in the churches. In other words, the popular books become the...
  13. Andrew

    What year was it when Protestants first started to remove books from the Holy Bible?

    About their friendship https://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/ecf/203/2030636.htm In order to understand the controversy between Jerome and Rufinus it is necessary to look back over their earlier relations. They had been close friends in early youth (Jerome, Ep. iii, 3, v, 2.) and had together...
  14. Andrew

    What year was it when Protestants first started to remove books from the Holy Bible?

    Good news!! I found some claims! Turns out Rufinus retracted his list of canon! Turns out he and Jerome had a falling out and Rufinus spilt a bucket of beans on him lol So here is Rufinus destroying Jerome AND joining Nathan and I in agreement! Thanks for introducing me to this fellow...
  15. Andrew

    What year was it when Protestants first started to remove books from the Holy Bible?

    Where do I claim what you claim I claimed that any of these characters claimed this and that? In my mind I think "are these Jews that Jerome studied under -believers in Jesus or unbelievers in Jesus?" and then in my mind I say "they reject Jesus so they are unbelievers" Then I wonder "why...
  16. Andrew

    What year was it when Protestants first started to remove books from the Holy Bible?

    Dude seriously, Jerome moved to Bethlehem to study under the Rabbis whom according to his preface of his 3rd psalmster he agrees with that the Jews are right and that the bible of the church needed correction. Rufinus moves to Jerusalem and reunites with Jerome who is converting the Septuagint...
  17. Andrew

    What year was it when Protestants first started to remove books from the Holy Bible?

    Short summery: Unbelieving Jews gave Jerome the "correct" Hebrew scriptures and Jerome accepts them and uses them to "diligently correct" the traditional Christian OT (LXX).. I base this on the following quote by Jerome "Certainly I will speak confidently and I will cite many witnesses of this...
  18. Andrew

    What year was it when Protestants first started to remove books from the Holy Bible?

    Why is Rufinus a problem? He was best buddies with Jerome in Jerusalem, being besties of course he would side with Jerome and the unbelieving rabbis. Pick someone else that was too easy
  19. Andrew

    What year was it when Protestants first started to remove books from the Holy Bible?

    It appears that the MAJORITY believed
  20. Andrew

    Why do people say that Tobit 1:15 is historically mistaken?

    See post 2 ;)
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