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  1. hobie

    Did the ancient Pagan Religions get picked up as 'tradition'?

    No, I don't know him.
  2. hobie

    Unquenchable Fire

    It is quite clear, the fire has a purpose and it finishes once that is done. No one can deliver themselves from its flame by putting it out, but finally not a coal will be left. Jeremiah prophesied that Jerusalem would burn with a fire that could not be quenched, but it burned down to ashes...
  3. hobie

    Did the ancient Pagan Religions get picked up as 'tradition'?

    I don't think I would consider them anything else, but you then like any church you have to examine the origins of their doctrines.
  4. hobie

    Did the ancient Pagan Religions get picked up as 'tradition'?

    This was the "Roman" church, and force its way into the St Thomas Christians, the new world, and into China and Japan, etc. There was nothing 'rouge' about it. Here are more Pagan doctrines, graven images, festivals and ceremonies coming into the early church. This is a list of the pagan...
  5. hobie

    Unquenchable Fire

    “And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched: where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.” Mark 9:43, 44. Some ask what is the unquenchable fire that...
  6. hobie

    Did the ancient Pagan Religions get picked up as 'tradition'?

    Go to what you would consider a 'third world' country, and I saw it in Europe, especially in Rome, and I even talked to a friend who was a priest in China and he confirmed its the same there. This is the way it was, but has faded in many countries, of course so has belief in many of the...
  7. hobie

    Did the ancient Pagan Religions get picked up as 'tradition'?

    Well, my mother grew up Catholic, so I have no problem with the good people, as there are many. But the system of worship is clearly not biblical. When I was young, I went with her to see one of the Cathedrals in her hometown and saw all the 'veneration' and offerings to the 'saints' and...
  8. hobie

    Did the ancient Pagan Religions get picked up as 'tradition'?

    How could you miss all the 'statues' at the Vatican I saw there, these were clearly 'idols'. While the Church claims it never gave the 'Saints' to the people to worship or pray to, the pagan masses it drew made no such fine distinctions, and they came to regard the idols of the 'Saints'...
  9. hobie

    Did the ancient Pagan Religions get picked up as 'tradition'?

    But you have to admit the fact that the whole system of worship, with the wood and stone idols and the rituals and sacraments etc.. are not from what Christ and the apostles gave to the early church, but are from another origin.
  10. hobie

    Did the ancient Pagan Religions get picked up as 'tradition'?

    History shows that the Pontifex Maximus was the guardian of the Vestal virgins. The Roman Catholic Church has simply named them Nuns instead. Most historians will agree that the idea for the powers of the pope with the College of Cardinals came from the Pagan College of Pontiffs with its...
  11. hobie

    Did the ancient Pagan Religions get picked up as 'tradition'?

    Well, pick whatever historian and its the same
  12. hobie

    Did the ancient Pagan Religions get picked up as 'tradition'?

    Here is from Edward Gibbons on the pagan religion in Rome. "From the age of Numa to the reign of Gratian, the Romans preserved the regular succession of the several colleges of the sacerdotal order. ^3 Fifteen Pontiffs exercised their supreme jurisdiction over all things, and persons, that were...
  13. hobie

    Did the ancient Pagan Religions get picked up as 'tradition'?

    Read your history and compare it to scripture, it came after the Roman Empire, it came from within the church, and it changed much of what came from Christ and the Apostles to its own "tradition". Now if you look, the title Pontifex Maximus can be traced way back, all the way back to Babylon...
  14. hobie

    Did the ancient Pagan Religions get picked up as 'tradition'?

    It picked up and brought in the whole of pagan sun worship which was in the Babylonian system of worship and has essentially been maintained to this day. The ancient Chaldeans worshipped a pantheon of male and female gods representing the sun god. There were largely three aspects to this system...
  15. hobie

    Did the ancient Pagan Religions get picked up as 'tradition'?

    The Antichrist power has been here since the Roman Empire fell away and left a religious entity which has at its head, one who would speak "pompous words" of blasphemy "against [God]." Scripture tells us more of the characteristics: It was to make war on God's saints. It would think to...
  16. hobie

    Did the ancient Pagan Religions get picked up as 'tradition'?

    Well, lets look at what scripture tells us: 2 Thessalonians 2:1-6 King James Version (KJV) "1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor...
  17. hobie

    Did the ancient Pagan Religions get picked up as 'tradition'?

    Looking into the history of the rites of the ancient pagan religion in Rome, the rites were performed and controlled by a number of different priestly collegia and other special priests and magistrates. The priestly organizations were many "independent" priests of various cults who bore the...
  18. hobie

    What happens to Satan at the end?

    Sin will come to an end as the wicked perish, and even Satan will be consumed as God will "destroy thee, O covering cherub,"and the fire will devour him to sahes, as we see, "will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in...
  19. hobie

    What happens to Satan at the end?

    along with the wicked and the evil angels, as sin is brought to an end and those under its bondage meet Gods judgement? Ezekiel 28:11-19 11 Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, 12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord...
  20. hobie

    What did Christ say about the Law?

    That is why we must obey by faith and its Christ perfect righteousness we put on, not our own. Hebrews 11:7 By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the...
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