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  1. Andrew

    In what ways does the Apocrypha point to Jesus as Savior?

    This is our God, and there shall none other be accounted of in comparison of him. He has found out all the way of knowledge, and has given it to Jacob his servant, and to Israel his beloved. Afterward did he show himself upon earth, and conversed with men. 3:35 Baruch
  2. Andrew

    In what ways does the Apocrypha point to Jesus as Savior?

    I believe I gave several examples
  3. Andrew

    In what ways does the Apocrypha point to Jesus as Savior?

    Again, the article refers to a dating that only ONE guy has ever proposed.. whos name is David Winston, he argues that because of the obvious references to the biblical crucifixion of Jesus then the book had to have been written AFTER 33 AD. The author of the article is using the dating of a...
  4. Andrew

    What's the first Book in the Bible you finished?

    Genesis and then Revelation lol
  5. Andrew

    In what ways does the Apocrypha point to Jesus as Savior?

    Read the Wikipedia article on the book of Daniel, they won't even entertain the possibility that the book of Daniel was written when the book says it was. According to wikipedia, Daniel is just another mythical figure because during the hellenistic era, pagan philosophers were obsessed with the...
  6. Andrew

    In what ways does the Apocrypha point to Jesus as Savior?

    Exactly! They do not find it logical for records that foretell accurate future events having been written prior to the event so they will date the prophetic text to after the time the events took place. Note this video at 51:10 minutes in.. They guy says "long story short Daniel was written in...
  7. Andrew

    In what ways does the Apocrypha point to Jesus as Savior?

    The man who came to the conclusion of the dates 37AD - 41 AD is.... David Winston, Professor of Hellenistic and Judaic Studies and Director of the Center for Judaic Studies at the Graduate Theological Union in Berkeley, California ...In his commentary book, also called "The Wisdom of Solomon"...
  8. Andrew

    Issues in the Reformation: Salvation

    Wow! Thats a great understanding of that quote, thanks :)
  9. Andrew

    In what ways does the Apocrypha point to Jesus as Savior?

    So Jesus was crucified in approximately 33 AD and between 33 AD to 41 AD somebody wrote the book of Wisdom for what? To prove to the Jews that the crucifixion was written in a brand new book that they wouldn't have been familiar with? Trying to pass it off as authentic?? A BOOK THAT NO JEW HAD...
  10. Andrew

    I am the way and the truth and the life

    Peter's confession of faith that "Jesus is the Christ, Son of the loving God" is foundation for the Church. It did not elevate Peter to high executor of God's will to implement dogmas (i.e. "papel succession"), this defense by the RCC is rather recent. Before it was based on Timothy regarding...
  11. Andrew

    Christ and His church are one!

    Churches were everywhere with each of their congregations overseen by it's presbyters who were taught the traditions from appointed bishops sent by Apostles... clearly Peter was not the only Apostle. From the accounts of arrest records of early Christians when Christianity was illegal, it...
  12. Andrew

    Come together, and enjoy Sgt. Pepper's music appreciation thread.

    Great thread! This is Daniel Johnston, he was known as an "outsider artist" for his lo-fi home tape recordings and his childlike singing voice. He suffered mental illness his entire life and put his heart and soul into every song he wrote and his home tapes and performances in the 1980s...
  13. Andrew

    In what ways does the Apocrypha point to Jesus as Savior?

    Maccabees is useful for understanding how revelation will play out, after all it's part of Daniel's prophecy which is echoed in Revelation. Antiochus is an anti-Christ figure in the story of the Maccabees who literally set up a statue of Zeus inside the 2nd Temple for pagans to sacrifice pigs...
  14. Andrew

    In what ways does the Apocrypha point to Jesus as Savior?

    Wisdom Chapter 2 is so accurate in detail of the crucifixion it escapes me how any Christian would deny it of being one of the most profound prophetic texts in what was once considered part of the OT by many early Christians (knowing it did not survive to today but through early church...
  15. Andrew

    In what ways does the Apocrypha point to Jesus as Savior?

    Daniel and Hebrews are both relevant to 1 and 2 Maccabees, Jesus even attended the Maccabean feast... He most likely attended this every year of his life so.. kind of important, and thanks to Christian church tradition we still have these texts today.
  16. Andrew

    "Volume of Truth" : Protestant Declaration of Canon?

    Only by request of the RCC with its approval by the ABS are these D-C books ever printed. I prefer the traditional method as being more beneficial in the modern era in understanding prophecy over the ABS censored/edited version of division and confusion of the many, very simple, NT verses that...
  17. Andrew

    "Volume of Truth" : Protestant Declaration of Canon?

    No, tradition is solid on the fact that these books ARE included in the Holy Bible. If the ABS never existed, we wouldn't be having this conversation and you would have no objections. [emoji106]
  18. Andrew

    "Volume of Truth" : Protestant Declaration of Canon?

    It's a protestant based publishing house with direct editing control over book listings in the kjv bible.. I mean what exactly was so wrong with the KJV Christians had been using up to the ABS? Whatever happened to the traditional Lutheran view that it was up to the pious reader what to make of...
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